Results 1 to 22 of 22

Thread: Pontus... never a dull moment

  1. #1
    Member Member Kamakazi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Dont You Wish You Knew?
    Posts
    399

    Default Pontus... never a dull moment

    So im making this thread to rant a bit and also to share. I started my pontus campaign on VH after a Normal Sparta and a Hard Parthia.

    At first going was good I dodge dip duck dive and dodged my way around Seleucid to gain some territory and was having an easy way of it. So I decided to kick it up a notch.

    I went for an agent conversion and got it and lo and behold holy mother of war.

    I have Seleucid and all of its satrapies on me. I also have one of my old allies declared on me as well as most of the north and all of the south east. I finally downed Persia and then Geharra decided to go plunk so Persia re emerged. Oh joy. Heres what my map looks like diplomatically


    Gotta love the wars right? Now as you can see im not without allies. Nabatea is doing well in the south. Problem is will all my allies ive only had help from them once or twice.

    Now like I previously stated I thought I was gaining advantage. But no way can that be happening so guess what? Civil fn War..... Damn I cant catch a break.
    If living is nothing dieing is nothing then nothing is everything and everything is nothing


  2. #2
    Member Member Sp4's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    1,101

    Default Re: Pontus... never a dull moment

    It's just the geographical location. Something always seems to be going on there

  3. #3

    Default Re: Pontus... never a dull moment

    I have Seleucid and all of its satrapies on me.
    Where are the Seleucids?
    Its the map, after you destroyed them?

    Seems like the Seleucid satrapies are not revolting when controled by AI.

    Looks very interesting situation, what turn were you when CW started?
    Last edited by nearchos; 10-25-2013 at 07:12.

  4. #4
    Strategist and Storyteller Senior Member Myth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    3,921

    Default Re: Pontus... never a dull moment

    People rant if they play 50 turns and nobody declars war. People rant when they do aggressive agent actions and the AI decalers war.
    The art of war, then, is governed by five constant
    factors, to be taken into account in one's deliberations,
    when seeking to determine the conditions obtaining in the field.

    These are: (1) The Moral Law; (2) Heaven; (3) Earth;
    (4) The Commander; (5) Method and discipline.
    Sun Tzu, "The Art of War"
    Like totalwar.org on Facebook!

  5. #5
    Member Member Sp4's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    1,101

    Default Re: Pontus... never a dull moment

    No one's ranting.

  6. #6
    Strategist and Storyteller Senior Member Myth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    3,921

    Default Re: Pontus... never a dull moment

    Quote Originally Posted by Kamakazi View Post
    So im making this thread to rant a bit
    Well the OP said so, and I trust his judgement.
    The art of war, then, is governed by five constant
    factors, to be taken into account in one's deliberations,
    when seeking to determine the conditions obtaining in the field.

    These are: (1) The Moral Law; (2) Heaven; (3) Earth;
    (4) The Commander; (5) Method and discipline.
    Sun Tzu, "The Art of War"
    Like totalwar.org on Facebook!

  7. #7
    A Livonian Rebel Member Slaists's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Posts
    1,828

    Default Re: Pontus... never a dull moment

    Civil war? You have to watch out for those 3rd level ambition generals. That, and your party's overall standing which should be as high as you can get it if you're playing as a monarchy. That counter-intuitively means: minimizing inactive general count from your own faction. Hire from your own faction only if you're actively going to use that general in battles.

  8. #8
    Member Member Kamakazi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Dont You Wish You Knew?
    Posts
    399

    Default Re: Pontus... never a dull moment

    Quote Originally Posted by nearchos View Post
    Where are the Seleucids?
    Its the map, after you destroyed them?

    Seems like the Seleucid satrapies are not revolting when controled by AI.

    Looks very interesting situation, what turn were you when CW started?
    im at turn 70 something I believe. Had to take a break to many defensive battles to fight.....

    Seleucid is bottom right of that map. They have one province left I believe. Nabatea has routed them lately.
    @Myth- im not complaining I enjoy it im just venting a little frustration
    If living is nothing dieing is nothing then nothing is everything and everything is nothing


  9. #9
    Member Member Sp4's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    1,101

    Default Re: Pontus... never a dull moment

    Quote Originally Posted by Myth View Post
    Well the OP said so, and I trust his judgement.
    It's a friendly rant :D

  10. #10

    Default Re: Pontus... never a dull moment

    Yeah, I didn't take it as a "real" rant either.

    Member thankful for this post:



  11. #11
    Member Member Kamakazi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Dont You Wish You Knew?
    Posts
    399

    Default Re: Pontus... never a dull moment

    things have been going decently... ive lost a few territories because I had to pull my armies to the interior to deal with the civil war. As soon as I get that under control I should be fine to go after aria whose been using me as a punching bag
    If living is nothing dieing is nothing then nothing is everything and everything is nothing


  12. #12
    Member Member Kamakazi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Dont You Wish You Knew?
    Posts
    399

    Default Re: Pontus... never a dull moment

    Im not amazing at the whole story telling bit but heres some shots of my campaign thus far.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    Took me forever to dance around and give some heroic defenses against the pontic nobles.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    Thanks for the advice on pikes they are good front men. And eastern spears aren't 100% terrible if you throw them in squares.

    After crushing the civil war I did some spreading to get the world off of my back. Bithnyia is gone. Pergamon is pretty much done. Egypt took out rhodos. Aria is now my punching bag and Parthia is next.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    Now there is a lot of this. Agent wars.

    cant get the pics to size down.....
    Last edited by Kamakazi; 10-27-2013 at 01:27.
    If living is nothing dieing is nothing then nothing is everything and everything is nothing


  13. #13

    Default Re: Pontus... never a dull moment

    I absolutely love Pontus because of their location and the non-stop action!

    In my present campaign (spread too thin on my last one, got "inverted"), I spent a ton of time allying with other Hellenic peoples, and at one point, if you look at my map, literally everything to my west as an ally. So I was able to focus on the east. And north...and south...lol

    Well, many turns later and I have had to help my allies stay alive in the west while taking it to the southern enemies while just holding tight against the nomads in the north. Thank God for my alliance with Cimmeria up north or I would have completely crumbled.

    Anyway, Pontus is clearly a hot spot, so if you don't want that, just play Iceni and make lots of barbarian friends and invite them to your confederation.

  14. #14

    Default Re: Pontus... never a dull moment

    Quote Originally Posted by nearchos View Post
    Seems like the Seleucid satrapies are not revolting when controled by AI.
    On my Pontus campaign, the poor Selucids were abandoned by all but one of their satropies. They went down hard lol They don't exist on my map.
    Last edited by Mhantra; 10-27-2013 at 13:11. Reason: spelling

  15. #15
    Member Member Kamakazi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Dont You Wish You Knew?
    Posts
    399

    Default Re: Pontus... never a dull moment

    Seleucid just got killed of by myself 2-3 turns ago =D

    And im not saying I don't want it lol im enjoying myself... idk I guess its like we said when I was in the marines if grunts aren't bit**ing they aren't happy
    If living is nothing dieing is nothing then nothing is everything and everything is nothing


  16. #16
    Member Member Kamakazi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Dont You Wish You Knew?
    Posts
    399

    Default Re: Pontus... never a dull moment

    Ill put this here and keep reliving my dead thread but one unit of scythed chariots just did 765 kills in 1 battle... holy hell
    If living is nothing dieing is nothing then nothing is everything and everything is nothing


  17. #17
    Strategist and Storyteller Senior Member Myth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    3,921

    Default Re: Pontus... never a dull moment

    Curious. I haven't used them in Rome 2 and quickly decided not to do so in Rome 1. But back then they were formation busters mostly, not that great on the kills. The highest I've gotten so far was a unit of Hellenic Cataphracts who got 600 or so kills.
    The art of war, then, is governed by five constant
    factors, to be taken into account in one's deliberations,
    when seeking to determine the conditions obtaining in the field.

    These are: (1) The Moral Law; (2) Heaven; (3) Earth;
    (4) The Commander; (5) Method and discipline.
    Sun Tzu, "The Art of War"
    Like totalwar.org on Facebook!

  18. #18
    Member Member Kamakazi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Dont You Wish You Knew?
    Posts
    399

    Default Re: Pontus... never a dull moment

    well in that same match a unit of blood cavs got 400 or so..... I was a loss sadly I was in a defensive battle with an ally. The enemy just had to many troops. The only reason they got so many kills was I was controlling them primarily. I was stunned when I saw the kill count... to bad I didn't get a screen shot of it. Chariots are decent until they get bogged down then its game over.
    If living is nothing dieing is nothing then nothing is everything and everything is nothing


  19. #19

    Default Re: Pontus... never a dull moment

    Yeah, I find them an odd unit to use. They are best rolling in open territory picking off unarmored units. So kind of like cav, but they seem to do far more damage after the initial charge, but yes, if they can't escape the melee or get pinned in by melee units, they are done.

  20. #20

    Default Re: Pontus... never a dull moment

    I use the chariots as spearhead for the cav, charging through the enemy line, followed close behind by a mass of cav and ive noticed that if the timing is good, even if you charge pikes or hoplites, the killing ratio of cav is huge with minimal losses.

    I supose is because the chariots are engaged by the enemy, so when instantly the cav fall upon them is like charging the flanks or rear of a unit that is already engaged.

    They just need micro mng so they will not stop and lose stamina, just keep them moving cuting through the mass of the enemy.
    Last edited by nearchos; 10-30-2013 at 11:03.

  21. #21

    Default Re: Pontus... never a dull moment

    Oooh, that's fascinating, nearchos. Will play with that.

  22. #22

    Default Re: Pontus... never a dull moment

    And doing the same with elephants and cav, or even more devastating, chariots-elephants-cav.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO