Iranian sanctions

[Beskar]

Thought things would lighten up a little after the elections. Isn't the new President more moderate?

[Fragony]

Thought things would lighten up a little after the elections. Isn't the new President more moderate?

He isn't the one who is in charge. The Iranians should be our natural allies 'we' totally screwed up by not giving the green wave our support.

Can't be spammed enough http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F48SinuEHIk

[Empire*Of*Media]

He isn't the one who is in charge. The Iranians should be our natural allies 'we' totally screwed up by not giving the green wave our support.

Can't be spammed enough http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F48SinuEHIk

and u forgot the 1953's CIA & MI6 plot of downfall of the most and the first democratic & wise Prime Minister of all Iran's History MOHAMAD MOSADEQ that they wanted Iran somehwere like Cuba in time of Batista that made Cuba rise a great dictatorship! while in Iran its Dictatorship was/is/will be the most fearful and harshful and worse dictatorship of humankind history!! u dont know because they cover all their great crimes, u must live here then you'll know what do i say!

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they did coupe to fall of mosadeq because he was a great obstacle for British & USA's Colonization and depleting Iranian OIL!! after mosadeq's victory over nationalizing Iranian oil Usa & Britian decided to throw mosadeq out of power and bring back SHAH to be their loyal servant again! so they did the coupe and throwed mosadeq out of power by military and intelligence coupe of Britain and USA with each other and some Iranian Mercenaries and they destroyed a pure Democracy in Iran completely for more than 100 years i think!!
so should we thank American Saviour of the mankind (as they show us in HollyWood and Speechs) and their support of their type of Democracy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Ir..._d%27%C3%A9tat

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mosaddegh

! but shah in the latest 70s shah thought he could be free of dependency from Western countries specially USA's Orders, and rised oil price and threatend USA & BRITAIN to not to give them oil and its money!!
well 5 years later from nowhere ISLAMIC fundamentalism rised and "death to shah" made a great embelm of revolution & freedom, while the people revolted, but the USA & BRITAIN's Installed taws and persons took the power. (as in history THE FIRST government that recognised ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALISM REVOLUTION OF IRAN was USA & BRITAIN!!!!!) becaouse they feared an independent and Powerful IRAN!! --------but after some time islamists thought they can have better power without US they betrayed their leaders in the west and got the religious people's support so there could be no way for another USA's Coupe!!! and the hostage crisis did happen! so USA couldnt repeat VIETNAM!! so they just learned a great lesson from the Iranian revolution and they did not repeat their DIRECT & OBVIOUS IMPERIALISM!! (and interfere!!)

and now that was why that Emirates (i mean Dubai) Emerged and a powerful in Nato of Turkey and...Pakistan were highly & greatly improved of their Economy & Military since Iran's Revolution, due to Iranian Strategic & Servantcy Losing for Western Imperialism specially USA !

and.....Europe has got its advantages in this dark revolution, due to Buying Iran's VERY VERY cheaper Oil than in times of the Shah and even other countries !!

while we suffer from more than 2000 Executions in a year (thats in times of peace!) that Iran is on the top of all countries with its lesser population with China, The Economical inflation of 47%(!!), the highering rate of theft 7 prostitution and selling childs, highering rate of divorce becouse of jobless people and Poverty &....................................!!!

but you have your Pleasure Imperialism !! and European Governments !!

[Pannonian]

And we stopped throwing foreign governments out of power for realpolitikal reasons a while ago, or at least learned to find a humanitarian facade for it first, so there's no point in talking about the Shah - we're not going to do it again. And after Iraq 03, we've learned not to throw foreign governments out of power for humanitarian reasons as well, as we catch more crap than it's worth, so there's not point in urging us to help in that - we're not going to do it again. Whatever will be will be, and if we want something, we're not going to spend billions to do it; we're just going to make sure the people we don't like won't be getting anything from us. Sure, we've been overbearing and domineering in the past, and people resent us for it. So we're going to stop doing that, and let things drop as they will. And people who've criticised us for the former can see how they like the latter. In the case of your supposed Kurdish nation, I suppose they won't like it very much, as you're not in power, others are in power over you, and yet others who are less gentle than us are happy to take over where we're leaving things. Oh well, people are going to dislike us anyway, but not doing anything is cheaper for us.

PS. we should never have overthrown Saddam in 2003; that was imperialism pure and simple. We should have let him continue to shaft his chunk of Kurds, as was his right to do. I hope my government learns from that and never again does anything to help the Kurdish people without getting advance payment to make the action profitable. And if the Kurds can't pay - well, that's their bad luck, and they can continue under their existing governments.

[Montmorency]

PS. we should never have overthrown Saddam in 2003; that was imperialism pure and simple. We should have let him continue to shaft his chunk of Kurds, as was his right to do. I hope my government learns from that and never again does anything to help the Kurdish people without getting advance payment to make the action profitable. And if the Kurds can't pay - well, that's their bad luck, and they can continue under their existing governments.

Yeah, that's what we get for starting a war just to help the Kurds out. But in fact, by starting such wars we help everyone in the world, including those who suffer or die as a result - so the whole world should be paying us for our good deeds! But that's just what saints get; no good deed goes unrewarded.

But at least we have the humility to turn our cheeks to such affronts! Meaning, of course we'll do it again - it's only right to help a brother-in-need...

[Empire*Of*Media]

And we stopped throwing foreign governments out of power for realpolitikal reasons a while ago, or at least learned to find a humanitarian facade for it first, so there's no point in talking about the Shah - we're not going to do it again. And after Iraq 03, we've learned not to throw foreign governments out of power for humanitarian reasons as well, as we catch more crap than it's worth, so there's not point in urging us to help in that - we're not going to do it again. Whatever will be will be, and if we want something, we're not going to spend billions to do it; we're just going to make sure the people we don't like won't be getting anything from us. Sure, we've been overbearing and domineering in the past, and people resent us for it. So we're going to stop doing that, and let things drop as they will. And people who've criticised us for the former can see how they like the latter. In the case of your supposed Kurdish nation, I suppose they won't like it very much, as you're not in power, others are in power over you, and yet others who are less gentle than us are happy to take over where we're leaving things. Oh well, people are going to dislike us anyway, but not doing anything is cheaper for us.

PS. we should never have overthrown Saddam in 2003; that was imperialism pure and simple. We should have let him continue to shaft his chunk of Kurds, as was his right to do. I hope my government learns from that and never again does anything to help the Kurdish people without getting advance payment to make the action profitable. And if the Kurds can't pay - well, that's their bad luck, and they can continue under their existing governments.

well yes you cant tell about that because you dont have anything to defend even cant tell lie about it!! it was CIA & MI6 undercover plot that was revealed in history!!

but......

HUMANITARIAN?!!!!! are u kidding or joking?! so attacking a nation to make it to pieces just & ONLY FOR PLUNDERING OIL, is called humanitarian?! all those crimes they did in Abu-Ghuraib & Guantanamo Prisons was for humankind?! perhaps u call a 14-15 years old teenage boy that was beaten & tortured hardly by 3 US soldiers in 2007, a threat for US?!!! or just to make fear to the colonized nation?!!

Perhaps you want to say VIETNAM & Cambodia & Laos was for humanitarian purposes?! u mean torturing poor farmers mass killing of them by burning them in fire alive, Rap ing women and cutting ***** of the men before executing them is the way of YOUR HUMANITARIAN?!! Rwanda for humanitarian?! Kenya & Kongo for humanitarian?!

so all great Dictators mus learn from your HUMANITARIAN works so they get bigger & better power!! but i guess they cant! because they must be very very wise and have 95% of the earth's economy & money to spread lies and propaganda like in CNN and Fox or just simply HollyWood to show themselves as the saviours and angels of mankind's history!!!!


re PS. if u read history better (not just in USA's Bookstore!) u will see 2 times USA in 1980s and 90s specially in the Persian Gulf War in Kuwait war, USA promised a complete free and autonomous government for the Iraqi Kurds while they were defending from huge army advanced warfare and chemical bombs that was made by western powers such as UK & US & Germany, that dropped to poor Village civilian people and killed 320.000 instantly just with 1 time (i dont say the rest of Genocide!), betrayed them!! 2 times two times US Promised the Genocided Kurds freedom, and both 2 times Angel USA betrayed Kurds & Assyrians just because Saddam gaved US many privileges and Points and did many contracts for only US's benefits!! yes if thats called HUMANITARIAN BETRAYAL TREACHERY !! the third time was for that ONLY because the Kurdish resistance was UNDENIABLE and got too much attention after showing Chemical Genocide of Kurdish Villagers in Europe specially in Sweden, AND IRAQI OIL!!

so for the third time USA needed Kurds Alliance only for their benefits for IRAQI OIL! i mean $ !! so Angel USA did such a lot for humanitarian........Purposes !!!!

(i just remembered Dictator The Movie!! go and see the last of the DICTATOR movie by sacha baron cohen that criticize all dictators & imperialists by a funny way, specaill the ends of the movie that describes AMERICAN DEMOCRACY!!)

[Pannonian]

Well, I guess if the Kurds want their own nation state, they'll have to do it all by their lonesome self then, since outside interventions are anathema to you. Good luck taking on the Iranians, Iraqis, Turks, and whoever else currently lords it over you. I know I'll be cheering them on to keep their current borders.

[Empire*Of*Media]

Well, I guess if the Kurds want their own nation state, they'll have to do it all by their lonesome self then, since outside interventions are anathema to you. Good luck taking on the Iranians, Iraqis, Turks, and whoever else currently lords it over you. I know I'll be cheering them on to keep their current borders.

well, tell u something. i know we will be another indirect colonized nation if USA make us independent (and that is because of undeniable resistance, not because they like to, and they will do it IF there is enough benefits for them). but as the Supremecy of power of UK transfered to USA, in some years later the great power of USA will be transfered too ISRAEL! (as a man, a journalist & sociologist explained in AlJazeera English)
so it is ISRAEL that reedit the middle east map after UK! because by 2023-2050 it is Israel that will be the next SuperPower and the man of the middle east! and we have more than 450.000 Kurdish Jews in Israel! so the Free Kurdistan will be made By Israel or at least USA & Israel not US alone! and all this, is because of Benefits again because Kurdistan has much resources & benefits for them and it is a TRUSTWORTHY ALLY For westerns due to not mixing Politics with Religion or sentimentality, so freeing Kurdistan not for Humanitarian or Human Rights or anything with Positive & Goodness.

but if that would go to free a nation from Racism & Dictatorship, that the cause is THEM!! then we will not be anathema to it!! we will use the Chance as we did at fall of Saddam after 3 times of betrayal of the Westerns & USA!! (first the contract of Severe 1921 - 1970 & 80s)

AND.......i think you want to Mis-Use the word INTERVENTION FOR FREE KURDISTAN that i inflect the truth i said! because you want swerve the discussion about all those crimes they commited !! well, YOU CANT FOOL ME !!