Military reforms?

[themilo]

Does this game have the marius reform? And if so are my troops upgraded or do I have to manually replace my armies?

[kdrakak]

It's all in the FAQ

[themilo]

Oh fantastic they kept the absolutely worst part of vanilla rome having to manually replace your armies after the marius reform, at least now I’m certain that rome 2 is better than this mod, say what you want about it but at the very least it doesn’t force me to spend 50 long boring turns replacing my entire army before I can have fun again.

[Kull]

Oh fantastic they kept the absolutely worst part of vanilla rome having to manually replace your armies after the marius reform, at least now I’m certain that rome 2 is better than this mod, say what you want about it but at the very least it doesn’t force me to spend 50 long boring turns replacing my entire army before I can have fun again.

That's what EB is all about - finding the worst elements of vanilla RTW and expanding on them! And if you think one manual reform is bad, Rome has THREE in EB! And other factions get reforms too, and even worse, the AI knows how to use them. So yes, far better that you spend your time playing R2.

[abou]

Oh fantastic they kept the absolutely worst part of vanilla rome having to manually replace your armies after the marius reform, at least now I’m certain that rome 2 is better than this mod, say what you want about it but at the very least it doesn’t force me to spend 50 long boring turns replacing my entire army before I can have fun again.

So I take it you will be quickly getting to work on a script that will replace all the units you have recruited with reformed units automatically?

Do go on.

[themilo]

So I take it you will be quickly getting to work on a script that will replace all the units you have recruited with reformed units automatically?

Do go on.

Just because I can’t fix something doesn’t invalidate my complaint, the only that would invalidate my complaint is that it’s simply impossible to mod units upgrading into better/different units.

[Ca Putt]

Eventho I've yet to see that actually happen in any mod I'd like to add a few points:

EB is all about Historical accuracy etc. having your Hastati on campaign in the forests of germania or the deserts of arabia magically transform into Marian legionaries, is just not plausible.
Reforms are changes, not simply upgrades. gameplaywise they are less upgrades than mechnics that unlock new units
Reformed units in EB are not always better than their early counterparts. Many players like to keep a few old units. For example the Camillian Triari clearly is a stronger unit than the Polybian one. It's not like the unreformed units become totally obsolete with the reform.
You don't have to "replace" all your armies. Just train new ones, Romans have enough money for that, and all others can slowly supplement their armies with new units. for example the Seleucid armoured Royal Guard, you simply add one (or two) to your royal army, they don't really replace anything. As romans you will probably have some armies with old equipment and others with new stuff. So what's the problem? Your old armies still kick butt, you just can'T retrain them anymore.
For romani the main advantage of reformed infantry is neither cost efficiency or raw strengh but availibility. While you can only train Cammilian troops in central italy, Marian legionaries can be trained virtually everywhere you'd want to go.

[abou]

Just because I can’t fix something doesn’t invalidate my complaint, the only that would invalidate my complaint is that it’s simply impossible to mod units upgrading into better/different units.

In this case, it does. Because there is actually no way to track every unit that gets changed in a reform that you have recruited and replace them exactly with a reform unit.

What's more, your complaint of something that impossible -- or at the least incredibly difficult -- to do has so turned you off from the mod that you've basically decided to throw it away.