Military reforms?

**Principe** · 11-05-2013, 17:47

Most factions are easy once you try them. I used to suck at barbarian armies. Now, I still suck, but I can conquer Rome with the Aedui. It's all how you think of it. Carthage is my personal favorite, but I think all of them have a chance. I think Makedon or Epeiros would be a good start. This is coming from a phalanx strategist, which you may not want to be. Then it's your own free will.

**sleep_well** · 11-07-2013, 04:41

Did Rome actually retrained their old armies or they simply raised new ones in the new fashion, maybe they changed equipments of their veterans? I am always interested with this question.

I also found the reforms for Rome to be no inconvenience at all, they did mess up my armies sometimes but no big deal. Besides, they should mess things up. I would imagine Camillian legions mixing with Polybian reinforcement to be historically accurate since come on they just strip their whole arsenal in 3 months??? Such reforms should be huge and would require considerable amount of time to carry out, a few years I think, so yeah I have nothing to complaint. If you don't want to recruit new armies then don't, simply reinforce them with new units, maybe forming a corp of veterans in those legions, or sending them as vanguards so your new units can be fresh and tidy.

Also, until someone do something to Rome 2, I'm not buying that mess.

**themilo** · 11-07-2013, 23:12

Originally Posted by Principe

Most factions are easy once you try them. I used to suck at barbarian armies. Now, I still suck, but I can conquer Rome with the Aedui. It's all how you think of it. Carthage is my personal favorite, but I think all of them have a chance. I think Makedon or Epeiros would be a good start. This is coming from a phalanx strategist, which you may not want to be. Then it's your own free will.

I tried Macedonia and it was anything but easy, the only way I can think of to win is to hold off Epirus in palla by killing their elephants and then holding out for 6 more turns until I can take Athens.

**joshmahurin** · 11-08-2013, 00:21

So you're at turn 1? Try playing as the Koinon Hellenon and talk about hard

**Ca Putt** · 11-08-2013, 00:41

It's not that hard, conquer Korinth; expell Macedonian troops from attica and conquer chalkis, after that your biggest problem is that everybody thinks you're there to save them from some random empire.

KH campaign is like a tutorial for how to use Hoplitai haploi and Sphendotai.

**sleep_well** · 11-09-2013, 01:19

Originally Posted by Ca Putt

after that your biggest problem is that everybody thinks you're there to save them from some random empire.

Really? How?

**joshmahurin** · 11-10-2013, 00:57

Eh it's just hard if they actually bring that massive stack down on you and then for the first while after until you have thoroughly trounced them and can afford to garison your cities. And yeah the scripted savior of all Hellas BS makes you into a fickle ally which pisses everyone off. Still it's only hard to start is what I meant. Especially if yeah you are not the best general or you prefer to play slow and steady like me and not send every able bodied man at the Macedonian wall

**The Stranger** · 11-12-2013, 07:01

Originally Posted by joshmahurin

So you're at turn 1? Try playing as the Koinon Hellenon and talk about hard

KH are like the easiest stuff in the world, you can have half of greece within 10 turns (on VH/VH)

Macedon might actually be harder because of all the people theyre at war with from the start.
Epirus would be hard if not for their elephants, which if u can keep them alive, will destroy anything the enemy can throw at you for like 5 years.

**Titus Marcellus Scato** · 11-14-2013, 17:43

Originally Posted by The Stranger

KH are like the easiest stuff in the world, you can have half of greece within 10 turns (on VH/VH)

Macedon might actually be harder because of all the people theyre at war with from the start.
Epirus would be hard if not for their elephants, which if u can keep them alive, will destroy anything the enemy can throw at you for like 5 years.

So VH/VH is the easiest stuff in the world? Maybe for you - not for the average new player. I still play H/M.

Macedon are at war with many factions at the start, but it's easy to quickly make peace with the Getai and the Ptolemies, because they don't share a border with you at the beginning and are therefore not very interested in fighting you. Only KH and Epirus are your real enemies, and sometimes even Epirus will make peace if you offer them a small bribe.

**The Stranger** · 11-15-2013, 00:35

no VH/VH isnt the easiest stuff, VH campaign mode is np, VH battle mode can be pretty hard when u have equal armies and it can also be pretty frustrating if you are in a position where you cant flank and just see your elite units melt vs medium tier units :/ but otherwise its a nice challenge.

I meant that Koinon Hellenon isnt hard. Try pontus, that stuff is epic.

**Ca Putt** · 11-15-2013, 02:00

Well KH certainly have their rocky start but it's nowhere as hard as that of several other factions, at the same time it does not get all that easy right after securing the homeland*(which is the point from which the game for most factions gets rather easy). That's why I actually like the silly "save hellas" events, they get you out of your little fortress. Another reason probably is that they neither have swordsmen nor Phalangitai(ok they do but who let's them romani scoundrels get a huge city?^^) nor Horse archers.

*Whereas the KH homeland coding is a bit confusing, but, you know the core regions where you can recruit elite troops