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    well the Fms are awesome, and unlike mounted non-nomad FMs you can have a large amout of them in one stack without the army getting silly and ineffective. th great disadvantage of the KH(in terms of FMs) however is that they don't have any lancers until you either hire some Illyrians or upgrade Athens*' MIC. Most other factions get Lancers early on due to their Bodyguard being a lancer. Exceptions here are sweboz not sure about saba and Lusotani, aka how lancy their cavalry is.
    And Lancers are of premium importance when dealing with superior Infantry formations. With some good slinger use it's not that big of an issue but It does throw soem people off. also Having a foot FM means you won'T be able to kill most of the routers. :(
    The heavy cavalry FM of other factions can be a winning force in battles as well with some charge and withdraw micro, but imo are less useful in a less developed army.
    you're right there, If you don't have anything to hold the enemy in place it's not so easy to strike at them. However apart from the nomads you usually have a unit or two of phalangitai or other heavy infantry in your army to pin down them buggers.

    PS: ehm, what was the topic anyway?^^

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    saba have an infantry FM iirc, but i never really played the faction :/ lusotanas FM are not for me, theyre like javelin cav, but i just find them weak and ineffective. i replaced them with the dosidataskeli in my games :P those units kick ***. idc if ahistorical or not, they just have to be in it :P

    killing routers is best done by light cavalry, which you do have easy access too, i agree that not having cavalry FM is a bit of a problem for the midgame as KH but the mercenary pool is so good in greece and surrounding areas that its barely a problem once the money starts pouring in.

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    Default Re: Military reforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Stranger View Post
    saba have an infantry FM iirc, but i never really played the faction
    They do, its effectiveness is somewhat limited by not having a standard bearer though, meaning your general is more exposed to enemy attacks.
    All three factions with infantry BGs have an advantage storming town centres early on (if you take Kydonia on turn 1 with KH, expect your faction leader's unit to be able to kill about half of the enemy army). Likewise with the Suebi and Saba FMs, who make mincemeat of the local light infantry garrisons. KH and Suebi BGs are also very effective at killing cavalry.

    More on topic though, the March of Time reforms are quite beneficial for KH and Makedonia IMO, so I don't see any reason for preventing them.




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