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    Who let you into higher education as a high school dropout?


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    Horrie I am proud of you, I totally share your disregard of the academic world. Not that am not educated, but they are mostly idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Horrie I am proud of you, I totally share your disregard of the academic world. Not that am not educated, but they are mostly idiots.
    Don't worry Fragolini, I'm not done with my own education just yet. I plan to add at least natural science to my list of subjects I can teach, and I'll probably attempt another masters degree at some point... But next time, I'll be a bit more careful and study the reading plans beforehand. If I see Bordieou on the reading list, I'll choose another one.

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    Mincing my words was pure torture. I may be an idiot but I am not stupid, and I simply can't take most academics seriously. If that is arrogant so be it.

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    "A particular highlight was the article/book we got explaining the origins and ideas of human rights. One page 5, it concluded that "human rights exist by use of language alone and to serve the bourgeois class". Suffice to say, I didn't bother reading the rest of that book."

    I can find in nature electromagnetic forces, hormones that make us more connected yet more racist and genes that express our sex.

    Human rights on the other hand I cannot find a force, hormone or gene that makes it so.

    Human rights are a social creation. Are the rich and powerful bound to the same rules as the middle class? Don't they get better lawyers, deals and access to pardons if they are caught? Aren't those in poverty focusing on survival? We love stories where humans are put in socially abhorrent scenarios and have to fight to survive.

    So is human rights real or just a social construct for those who are in control of their own lives but not society ie the middle class?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio View Post
    Are the rich and powerful bound to the same rules as the middle class?
    Human rights are a set of rules for states, not individuals(as opposed to the genocide convention, which is for individuals).
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    ...as opposed to the genocide convention, which is for individuals.
    I always thought genocide required more then one... Either actor or victim.
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    You only get respect if you finish your PhD thesis and then drop out before presenting/defending it because the establishment, man.

    How are you supposed to get on a sarcastic independent lecture-track now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Mincing my words was pure torture. I may be an idiot but I am not stupid, and I simply can't take most academics seriously. If that is arrogant so be it.
    luckily nobody takes you serious either ;)

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    According to this wonderful book I am reading, post-modernism has been a joke from the start. Paul de Man was a fraud and a Nazi, Heidegger was a Nazi, Feyerabend was, well, let his words speak for themselves:

    "There is not one common sense, there are many...Nor is there one way of knowing, science; there are many such ways, and before they were ruined by Western civilization they were effective in the sense that they kept people alive and made their existence comprehensible."

    Post-modernism is believing yourself to be wise by claiming that ignorance is universal and that progress is impossible because....world wars happen.

    People who try to talk about "seeing things from the perspective of the minority/oppressed" act as if no one was doing just that before some 20th Century French philosophers told us that people can see things differently therefore absolutely nothing is the same from person to person.

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    "There is not one common sense, there are many...Nor is there one way of knowing, science; there are many such ways, and before they were ruined by Western civilization they were effective in the sense that they kept people alive and made their existence comprehensible."
    Hah! One of the main reason I quit was because I feared for my sanity if I had to sit through yet another lecture where the professor droned on about how superduperawesome this "indigenous knowledge"(or ignorance, as it's usually called) is.

    Jon Elster once noted that the only use of post-modernism is to legitimize quaks in the "alternative medicine" industry. He's got a point.

    Still, I've got a worse one than your quote: I don't have the exact wording, but Bruno Latoure noted in a response to a british medical team who had examined some mummy and determined tuberculosis as the cause of death, that it was meaningless to say that he died of tuberculosis, because the term didn't exist until the 18th century... Thus, you couldn't say he died of tuberculosis.

    It's like the stupidity leaps from the page.
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    luckily nobody takes you serious either ;)
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    Doesn't stop him from endlessly trolling multiple sites for decades.
    I thought Frags was an .org exclusive, like our own flagship console title... Are you telling me he went cross-platform?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossLOPER View Post
    Doesn't stop him from endlessly trolling multiple sites for decades.
    I post here and on the Dutch site Geenstijl, and that's about it, shut up and kiss me, or just shut your eastblock squarhead
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Who let you into higher education as a high school dropout?
    a good friend of mine went to uni with me at the grand age of 27 with nothing but half a dozen average o-levels grades (GCSE equivalent but more valuable), and he left with an mENG in software engineering. now a very talented software engineer.

    he came from a (welsh) valleys working class family in the seventies that had never sent a kid to uni, and decided to give it a crack after his girlfriend dumped him, his porsche 928 (the cheesy ones) blew up, and he was laid off from his PVC window factory job. i believe it's called social mobility. ;)

    not having four A* a-levels is not necessarily any good reason for a Uni to turn down a good candidate.

    on the other hand, sadly as seems the case with the big H, the uni is not always worthy of the talent of its students.
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    Actually, the reason I got into higher education without completing high school is because I did what you spend three years doing in about a week and a half.

    I did the exams of every subject instead of following classes. I did half of them to get away from military service(the part called "mønstring" in Norwegian, not sure what it's called in english; it's when you have to line every item the platoon has for some idiot to count them), the other half I did half-drunk a year later.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    you are absolutely brilliant.

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    I'm far from an A* student myself, I was just surprised how a dropout could get into higher education given that if you tried that here you'd hit an indestructible beaureaucratic wall that would bar you from entering unless you could show the necessary papers.

    And I see that you did indeed get the necessary papers. My world view has been saved.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    ... I did half of them to get away from military service(the part called "mønstring" in Norwegian, not sure what it's called in english; it's when you have to line every item the platoon has for some idiot to count them)...
    Either referred to as an inspection or, somewhat dismissively, as a chickens**t exercise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    Either referred to as an inspection or, somewhat dismissively, as a chickens**t exercise.
    I remember when we found a box of empty magazines. I jokingly asked the sergeant whether we should line all the magazines individually, or just line the boxes. His answer was to "cut silly questions". We should line the boxes.

    An hour or so later, we got ordered to line each magazine individually.... That was fun!

    The oral exam I had that week actually only took half an hour. Strangely, I was missing the entire day...
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    ... I did half of them to get away from military service(the part called "mønstring" in Norwegian, not sure what it's called in english; it's when you have to line every item the platoon has for some idiot to count them)...
    Either referred to as an inspection or, somewhat dismissively, as a chickens**t exercise.
    "The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman

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