Caesar in Gaul DLC

**easytarget** · 12-24-2013, 14:50

Got to agree, I like it better so far than the main campaign as well. I though had a pretty good idea I would because I'm fully convinced CA isn't up to the task of making large campaign map games (i.e. Empire and Rome 2 vs what for me is the best game they ever made, Shogun 2). Lower the number of AI combatants, scale down the map, give me my beautiful seasons back along with agents and generals I can develop and not have die off before I remember their names and viola, Rome 2 turns into a game I once again recognize and enjoy.

**Barkhorn1x** · 12-24-2013, 15:03

+1 - I feel the same way!!

**Seyavash** · 12-24-2013, 20:37

Originally Posted by easytarget

Got to agree, I like it better so far than the main campaign as well. I though had a pretty good idea I would because I'm fully convinced CA isn't up to the task of making large campaign map games (i.e. Empire and Rome 2 vs what for me is the best game they ever made, Shogun 2). Lower the number of AI combatants, scale down the map, give me my beautiful seasons back along with agents and generals I can develop and not have die off before I remember their names and viola, Rome 2 turns into a game I once again recognize and enjoy.

While it is disappointing they didn't do it themselves for the main campaign. CA has made it possible for modders to add seasons, turns, as well as additional traits for the agents and generals all to the main campaign, so you can still have nearly the game you hoped for within the main campaign.

**Hooahguy** · 12-24-2013, 22:28

Someone actually did a seasons mod for the campaign map. Its pretty awesome: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...nal-Graphics!)

**Sp4** · 12-25-2013, 00:35

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

Someone actually did a seasons mod for the campaign map. Its pretty awesome: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...nal-Graphics!)

Yeah I saw that and tried it out. One problem with it I have is that you can only really go with the 4tpy with this. If you do 2tpy, it might annoy you that the winter in a year comes before the summer (which may be true in some parts of central Europe, depending how you look at it). 4tpy just makes the game sooooooo slow... I guess I can't complain though for getting a feature modded into the game, CA expects you to pay for.

**Hooahguy** · 12-25-2013, 03:25

I see how that can be a problem. I play with 4tpy anyways so this mod is like a godsend.

**easytarget** · 12-25-2013, 17:28

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

Someone actually did a seasons mod for the campaign map. Its pretty awesome: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...nal-Graphics!)

Nice to see, but sorry, I expect it in the game, as it is in GIC.

**easytarget** · 12-25-2013, 17:49

One further comment as well while I'm thinking about it, the idea of "mod it so it's the way you want it" is that it assumes an unstated premise, that I actually feel any strong compulsion to hunt down and install some random guys idea of how Rome 2 should work in order to "fix it".

In reality, my take on games assumes no such premise. I work off a much more basic concept instead when consuming PC gaming entertainment: devs produce and release their game, I buy it, play it, and decide if I like it. The product stands or falls in my eyes based on how it is presented, no more, no less. If I like it, I play it a lot, if I don't I'll almost always finish it and be done with it. All works of entertainment in my book deserve completion to properly assess them.

I've done that with Rome 2 and my conclusion is when you juxtapose it against the preceding work, it is easily the most wrong headed game design release in a LONG time. It shows no cohesive vision like it's predecessor so clearly did, it shows every sign of not being play tested at all, and the game design decisions are so bad I remain fully convinced this isn't even the same team that worked on this that produced Shogun 2.

But all is not lost, as I said, I'm enjoying GIC.

**Hooahguy** · 12-25-2013, 18:15

I really wouldnt be surprised if they made a Barbarian Invasion 2, with everything that Rome 2 lacked. Like family trees. And a better trait system. It will be like NTW was to ETW. More focused and overall better.

**Sp4** · 12-26-2013, 12:07

They'll put all that in a new game, don't worry =p

**easytarget** · 12-25-2013, 17:25

Originally Posted by Seyavash

While it is disappointing they didn't do it themselves for the main campaign. CA has made it possible for modders to add seasons, turns, as well as additional traits for the agents and generals all to the main campaign, so you can still have nearly the game you hoped for within the main campaign.

You can't mod a game properly that is designed from the ground up on 1ypt. It affects every single facet of the game.