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    Default Re: The Taking of the Earl of Ormonde, 1600

    Well now.

    Sure'n it's a question of perspective as to that "rebel" labeling is it not?

    Sinn Fein!
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    I believe that the privilege of deciding who was "loyal" and who was "rebel" usually belongs to the victor. History is one of the most important spoils of war. I am abymally ignorant about Irish history, but since the Irish eventually got their independence (except the northern Irish, who don't seem to be much bothered about it) I'd have to say that the "rebels" were actualy the "loyal" ones.

    So who was this Earl of Ormonde anyway? I have to admit I don't know what side he was on, and I'm not even sure what the sides were at that time.
    In those simple times there was a great wonder and mystery in life. Man walked in fear and solemnity, with Heaven very close above his head, and Hell below his very feet. God's visible hand was everywhere, in the rainbow and the comet, in the thunder and the wind. The Devil too raged openly upon the earth; he skulked behind the hedge-rows in the gloaming; he laughed loudly in the night-time; he clawed the dying sinner, pounced on the unbaptized babe, and twisted the limbs of the epileptic. A foul fiend slunk ever by a man's side and whispered villainies in his ear, while above him there hovered an angel of grace . . .

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    Lightbulb Re: The Taking of the Earl of Ormonde, 1600

    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    Well now.

    Sure'n it's a question of perspective as to that "rebel" labeling is it not?

    Sinn Fein!
    There are those who have power and those that are subject to that power. Those of the latter who use force to change this are rebels.
    Good and evil are not part of the definition and can be considered separately.

    In 1600 the Kingdom of England was in control of all the island of Ireland.

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    Default Re: The Taking of the Earl of Ormonde, 1600

    Sure'n I was just having a wee bit o' fun with ye. Just for the craic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    Sure'n I was just having a wee bit o' fun with ye. Just for the craic!
    Never-the-less it was a question worth addressing.

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    Default Re: The Taking of the Earl of Ormonde, 1600

    O'Mores > Ormondes
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