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Thread: The Taking of the Earl of Ormonde, 1600
druzhina 11:52 12-02-2013
Rebel Irish Infantry & Loyal Cavalry on a Map of the Taking of the Earl of Ormonde

A detail of Rebel Irish Infantry & Loyal Cavalry on a Map of the Taking of the Earl of Ormonde
An account of the Taking of the Earl of Ormonde from Pacata Hibernia

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Rebel Irish Infantry & Loyal Cavalry on a Map of the Taking of the Earl of Ormonde

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Seamus Fermanagh 17:25 12-12-2013
Well now.

Sure'n it's a question of perspective as to that "rebel" labeling is it not?

Sinn Fein!

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Brandy Blue 02:46 12-13-2013
I believe that the privilege of deciding who was "loyal" and who was "rebel" usually belongs to the victor. History is one of the most important spoils of war. I am abymally ignorant about Irish history, but since the Irish eventually got their independence (except the northern Irish, who don't seem to be much bothered about it) I'd have to say that the "rebels" were actualy the "loyal" ones.

So who was this Earl of Ormonde anyway? I have to admit I don't know what side he was on, and I'm not even sure what the sides were at that time.

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druzhina 04:01 12-13-2013
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh:
Well now.

Sure'n it's a question of perspective as to that "rebel" labeling is it not?

Sinn Fein!
There are those who have power and those that are subject to that power. Those of the latter who use force to change this are rebels.
Good and evil are not part of the definition and can be considered separately.

In 1600 the Kingdom of England was in control of all the island of Ireland.

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Seamus Fermanagh 14:46 12-13-2013
Sure'n I was just having a wee bit o' fun with ye. Just for the craic!

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druzhina 03:40 12-14-2013
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh:
Sure'n I was just having a wee bit o' fun with ye. Just for the craic!
Never-the-less it was a question worth addressing.

Druzhina
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The Lurker Below 16:53 12-17-2013
O'Mores > Ormondes

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