The Taking of the Earl of Ormonde, 1600
Rebel Irish Infantry & Loyal Cavalry on a Map of the Taking of the Earl of Ormonde
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Rebel Irish Infantry & Loyal Cavalry on a Map of the Taking of the Earl of Ormonde
Druzhina
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Last edited by druzhina; 06-11-2018 at 06:38.
Re: The Taking of the Earl of Ormonde, 1600
Well now.
Sure'n it's a question of perspective as to that "rebel" labeling is it not?
Sinn Fein!
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Re: The Taking of the Earl of Ormonde, 1600
I believe that the privilege of deciding who was "loyal" and who was "rebel" usually belongs to the victor. History is one of the most important spoils of war. I am abymally ignorant about Irish history, but since the Irish eventually got their independence (except the northern Irish, who don't seem to be much bothered about it) I'd have to say that the "rebels" were actualy the "loyal" ones.
So who was this Earl of Ormonde anyway? I have to admit I don't know what side he was on, and I'm not even sure what the sides were at that time.
In those simple times there was a great wonder and mystery in life. Man walked in fear and solemnity, with Heaven very close above his head, and Hell below his very feet. God's visible hand was everywhere, in the rainbow and the comet, in the thunder and the wind. The Devil too raged openly upon the earth; he skulked behind the hedge-rows in the gloaming; he laughed loudly in the night-time; he clawed the dying sinner, pounced on the unbaptized babe, and twisted the limbs of the epileptic. A foul fiend slunk ever by a man's side and whispered villainies in his ear, while above him there hovered an angel of grace . . .
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Re: The Taking of the Earl of Ormonde, 1600
There are those who have power and those that are subject to that power. Those of the latter who use force to change this are rebels.Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
Good and evil are not part of the definition and can be considered separately.
In 1600 the Kingdom of England was in control of all the island of Ireland.
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Last edited by druzhina; 06-11-2018 at 06:39.
Re: The Taking of the Earl of Ormonde, 1600
Sure'n I was just having a wee bit o' fun with ye. Just for the craic!
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
Re: The Taking of the Earl of Ormonde, 1600
Never-the-less it was a question worth addressing.
Druzhina
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Last edited by druzhina; 06-11-2018 at 06:40.
Re: The Taking of the Earl of Ormonde, 1600
O'Mores > Ormondes
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