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    Default Implications of path length CTD discovery

    is the fix immplementable into eb1 or does it only work for eb2 ?

    good work ofc if you can handle the white map bug or the end of batles crash i think 95% of all the major bugs in the game are finally solved

    Edit: Topic broken out from the Twitter discussion - Kull
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonburn View Post
    is the fix immplementable into eb1 or does it only work for eb2 ?

    good work ofc if you can handle the white map bug or the end of batles crash i think 95% of all the major bugs in the game are finally solved
    Here's the key - path lengths in excess of 127 characters will cause CTDs, no matter WHAT GAME you are playing. If you have a long paths in EB1, they'll cause crashes too. Be ruthless in your naming conventions, and this might solve problems in many areas. C:\EB2 in comparison to C:\Program Files (x86)\Medieval II Total War\ is 3 characters compared to 45. That buys you a lot of space if games and/or mods haven't been judicious in their naming conventions. We will be taking a wholesale look at this in EB2 (potentially there are many other CTDs that hitherto seemed random, but have this as their basis), but individual players can do their part by minimizing the length of their game directory names.
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    After many years, Siege CTD bug finally solved thanks to efforts of makanyane, bovi, & Kull. Huge! - The EB Team
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kull View Post
    Here's the key - path lengths in excess of 127 characters will cause CTDs, no matter WHAT GAME you are playing. If you have a long paths in EB1, they'll cause crashes too. Be ruthless in your naming conventions, and this might solve problems in many areas. C:\EB2 in comparison to C:\Program Files (x86)\Medieval II Total War\ is 3 characters compared to 45. That buys you a lot of space if games and/or mods haven't been judicious in their naming conventions. We will be taking a wholesale look at this in EB2 (potentially there are many other CTDs that hitherto seemed random, but have this as their basis), but individual players can do their part by minimizing the length of their game directory names.

    That seems way just to simple....
    My EB1 as allways been very unstable, I will surelly try that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LusitanianWolf View Post

    That seems way just to simple....
    My EB1 as allways been very unstable, I will surelly try that!
    It does, doesn't it? Several of us were skimming around the edges on this, but @bovi (huge props) made the critical connection. This isn't the thread for substantive discussions on the matter, but I want you guys to recognize how key this is, so I'll violate that rule this once:

    Quote Originally Posted by bovi View Post
    But note that the full path to the triarii officer texture (129) is above 127, which is a magic number in computing as it is the maximum number you can represent with 7 bits.
    Emphasis added. And that's it in a nutshell. Crazy simple, HUGE stability impact. I haven't felt better about where we are with EB2 in......ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kull View Post
    It does, doesn't it? Several of us were skimming around the edges on this, but @bovi (huge props) made the critical connection. This isn't the thread for substantive discussions on the matter, but I want you guys to recognize how key this is, so I'll violate that rule this once:



    Emphasis added. And that's it in a nutshell. Crazy simple, HUGE stability impact. I haven't felt better about where we are with EB2 in......ever.
    Crazy indeed! Deserving of epic sized props!!!



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