Kalashnikov Dead

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Then the entire point of having 7.62 is gone...

As is the 7.62. the 74, 107 etc. fire the same "high class varmint" sized ammo that most USA and NATO ordinance rely upon. The soviet version was even 5.45 compared to NATO 5.56.

...What makes them interesting is that they are based on the old rifles but are almost completely ignored in popular media.

US media does not ignore them at all....it simply calls them all AK-47s. Why bother with accuracy when you can use an iconic label?

There's much more inherent "evil" in saying "AK-47 ASSAULT rifle" on your news broadcast. Some of the more educated among them call them "Kalishnikovs," even though he hasn't been the lead designer for a goodly time. So many Americans, "informed" by the vaseline-smiled ignoramati.

[HoreTore]

As is the 7.62. the 74, 107 etc. fire the same "high class varmint" sized ammo that most USA and NATO ordinance rely upon. The soviet version was even 5.45 compared to NATO 5.56.

That I get to fire my AG3 is the only reason I'm still in the home guard. If they ever swap to 5.56 girlguns, I'll declare myself "critical personnel" and quit instantly.

[Kadagar_AV]

That I get to fire my AG3 is the only reason I'm still in the home guard. If they ever swap to 5.56 girlguns, I'll declare myself "critical personnel" and quit instantly.

Anything but urban warfare, and it seems ridiculous to choose 7,62 over 5,56. No?

Given that 90% of the fighting in Norway would take place in, and around, fjords... Well go figure.

[HoreTore]

Anything but urban warfare, and it seems ridiculous to choose 7,62 over 5,56. No?

Given that 90% of the fighting in Norway would take place in, and around, fjords... Well go figure.

Uhm, what? The 7.62 was chosen due to our fjords(or more specifically, our northern wasteland), and the 5.56 is introduced because of its urban abilities.

[Kadagar_AV]

Uhm, what? The 7.62 was chosen due to our fjords(or more specifically, our northern wasteland), and the 5.56 is introduced because of its urban abilities.

So... You are doing it wrong then.

No wonder Sweden trampled you in each and every war.

Only positive with the 7.62 is the penetration in, say, concrete.

If you talk about effect on the human body, 5,56 wins. It also has less recoil and weights less (VERY important if you are an actual soldier).

There is a reason why all modern armies switched to 5.56 from 7.62

[HoreTore]

So... You are doing it wrong then.

No wonder Sweden trampled you in each and every war.

Only positive with the 7.62 is the penetration in, say, concrete.

If you talk about effect on the human body, 5,56 wins. It also has less recoil and weights less (VERY important if you are an actual soldier).

There is a reason why all modern armies switched to 5.56 from 7.62

As Seamus explained above, the 7.62 was introduced all across Nato back in the day, and the last batch of AG3's are from the very early 70's. The battle rifle has a longer range than the assault rifle, while the assault rifle is far less bulky to drag through doors and alleys and such.

Weight and recoil concerns are for girly swedes, not something proper vikings care about.

[Kadagar_AV]

Weight and recoil concerns are for girly swedes, not something proper vikings care about.

I guess that is either a winning or idiotic statement.

Let's just say the jury is out on that one.