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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    I think the thing with the 5,56 and cold is due to USAnian mag's were made of a plastic that didn't do to well in the cold...

    I just now remembered a officer telling me about it more than a decade ago. You need cold steel mags up where I fight, once you have those it really isnt an issue...

    But let's remember USAnian troops are equipped by the lowest bidder... Swedish arctic rangers are equipped by the state. Therefore, I guess, plastic vs steel.
    The new composites (graphite fiber I think) handle it just fine. The first few years of M-16s did have a lot of problems resulting from the characteristics of the early bakelite plastics though.
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    Logical would be that carbonites is more versatile as iron shrinks in low temperatures and expands in higher ones. Keep in mind that I am no expert in this, so don't be cruel to me if I got that wrong.

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    I believer there were some issues with 5.56 barrels and shrinkage too - something to do with a difference in rifling.

    *shrug*

    Anyway - M-16 kinda sucks - we get it.
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    Blame the weapon system or nation funding it, not the ammo...

    Yes 5,56 worked damn bad in cold climates, for USAnian troops with weapons produced by the lowest bidder.

    Swedish soldiers serving our King have had absolute nil such issues.

    What Seamus said is right, USA used plastics for mags.

    I must honestly say I was way impressed with the Swedish equipment we had. Not many forces in the world can be on 100% combat effectiveness in -47 degrees Celsius.

    Such small solutions as having gloves with mittens on top, mittens having the ability to be folded back half way so we had the (gloved) fingers free to shoot, meant we could have warm fingers holding the trigger. I noticed LOADS of such small practical details that is worth life and death in a real situation :)

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    Standard issue magazines for the M16/M4 are aluminum, not plastic. Soldiers were briefly allowed to use polymer based magazines during our recent conflicts in the desert, but you would not have seen those a decade ago. Also, there is very little difference in cost and material quality between the ARs Colt supplies to the US military and the FNC copy used by Sweden.

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    Default Re: Kalashnikov Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger View Post
    Standard issue magazines for the M16/M4 are aluminum, not plastic. Soldiers were briefly allowed to use polymer based magazines during our recent conflicts in the desert, but you would not have seen those a decade ago. Also, there is very little difference in cost and material quality between the ARs Colt supplies to the US military and the FNC copy used by Sweden.
    I guess it is all about the skill then

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