Some questions

[alexkon3]

It is indeed sad. Personally, I liked the original version from the 0.7 release. Until the find gets published, without him on the team I'm not sure how comfortable we are with using the unit. There was debate about the veil being something similar to an aventail instead. The only other thing I can remember us discussing was that there were Seleukid coins found in the grave; however, I don't remember which kings. At the least, the use of a large thureos, chain mail, and iron helmet are common. The only thing I would do differently is use the spear overhanded rather than under.

I'm in contact with him regularly, but I suppose it is better to say that he left the history field for better financial prospects in the business world.

hmm that's sad but at least you could ask for permission perhapse? I personally think it would be sad to not include one of the iconic units from eb. but i would fully understand it if the team would not include them because off stated reasons. i think i've asked the same thing about the heitaeroi kataphraktoi and a team member said they wont be in eb 2 too =(

[abou]

Unfortunately, it's the same guy. If it makes you feel better, face masks and heavily armored cavalry aren't impossible either -- it just might not look like they once did.

[moonburn]

the seulekid king afterwards known as "soter" made an agreament with the mauryan kingdom and received indian elephants with their respective mahouts wich he then used in messi asia to stop the galatian invasion (soter being saviour in greek) so thats the source of your information most likely

indian elephants are bigger then the average forest/bush african elephant used by the ptolemaioi and the karthies and the other elephant specie that existed in africa is suposed to be too wild to be able to domesticated

as for the tab i have no clue i can only infeer as it being a conjunction of diferent traditions the persians had the kings 10.000 bodyguards/elite forces alexandros ganged his best seasoned troops into one elite unit that myth says fighted well into their 60´s and had to be "destroyed" by sending 3 men at a time against an army (this forçe being in average 5.000 men ) towards the end of the 2nd (?) diadochii war

the greeks and hellenes always had the grey hair tradition (altough the makedonians didn´t ganged them together but kept them on their own units to inspire the young ones )

the seulekids at a time had a standing army of 10.000 elite warriors that could use several diferent weapons (like alexandros who used to equip his men with either the sarissa or equip them as peltastai depending on the job that had to be done altough they where later replaced by hill people to save up the manpower of the phallanx) so a very flexible army composed of experienced warriors (the grey hairs but that in rtw where the silver shields ... hurra for acurate translations) but according to some other researchers this army if existed was divided in 2 arms one who was suposed to be equiped as the tab (agematos) and another one that was equiped as the right side of the phallanx (each group containing 5.000 men)

so the tab´s aren´t farfetched there´s plenty of "tradition" and continuation of such groups both on the greek side and on the persian side

but this is what i can remember and sometimes my memory plays tricks on me so all of this requires confirmation

[kdrakak]

hmm that's sad but at least you could ask for permission perhapse? I personally think it would be sad to not include one of the iconic units from eb. but i would fully understand it if the team would not include them because off stated reasons. i think i've asked the same thing about the heitaeroi kataphraktoi and a team member said they wont be in eb 2 too =(

I do remember a picture of a relief on Hetairoi Kataphraktoi from this forum, but have not searched for it yet. I am not sure on the dating of that and hence on the advent of this super heavy cavalry. Btw I finished a Bactrian campaign for the second time and was particularly troubled with two things about this unit. a) How often their charge (on level ground and with more than plenty space to build the necessary momentum) was pathetically ineffective especially for the +47 bonus they feature and b) how easily they would take casualties even from light units despite their super heavy armor (fatigue does not explain it... I observed this effect on warmed up units). Unless the numbers on the description are different from the actual ones in the engine... Any clues?

[alexkon3]

I do remember a picture of a relief on Hetairoi Kataphraktoi from this forum, but have not searched for it yet.

so theoretical you could find it?

[kdrakak]

so theoretical you could find it?

theoretically you could too ;)

[alexkon3]

theoretically you could too ;)

hmmmmm I've searched the forums many times but never found anything that's why i thought you could find it xD

[Brave Brave Sir Robin]

hmmmmm I've searched the forums many times but never found anything that's why i thought you could find it xD

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...20Kataphractoi

No pictures that I could find but this is the thread where it was discussed.