Large mafia game Clues and Evidences - SIGNUPS

[Riedquat]

I revealed beefy, scanned him this night.
And ishmael is the only one who can fit ALL the clues at the same time, here hair being red(might be seen as brown or dark) and her medium build(making her possibly rather small and rather large to cameras.)

Thanks for the clarification! I think there are two global categories about hair, dark (brown and black) and clear (blonde and red)...

Doh... forgot balds! :P

So... 3 categories, dark, clair/clear and balds?

[Ishmael]

Adding in the means of death:

Night 0 kills:
Jimmy: Dark hair*, rather small build*, poisoned
Jarema: ? hair, medium build, shot

Night 1 kills:
LazyMcCrow: Brown hair*, medium build*, poisoned
Sprig: Dark hair, medium build*, shot

Night 2 kills:
Beefy: Red hair, rather large build, shot

Night 3 kills:
edse: ? hair, ? build, shot
ACIN: ? hair, ? build, poisoned

Asterisks mark unknown sources, rest are Makrell's results.

It can be noted that the shooter has contradictory evidence w.r.t hair colour - Makrell got both dark and red hair for them. This suggests that the shootings correspond to the mafia, who have more than one member (probably two). Alternatively, it's only one person but they were wearing a wig on one of the occasions.

The information on the poisoner seems to be a little more consistent, with both sets of results pointing towards dark hair and either a rather small or medium build. As discussed in the previous day phase this suggests either BSmith or Makrell, but the fact that we only have two sets of results is troublesome - after all, the results for the shootings were consistent until Beefy's death.

For the record, I am a psychologist (can test the personality type of living players) - my results so far are that Riedquat has an antisocial personality, and Andres has a paranoid personality. My orders for the previous night phase were to test Makrell, and provided he agrees to the testing I will know his personality type at the start of the night phase. These results are obviously not all that helpful at present, but if anybody wants to chip in with complementary information that would be nice.

[Diana Abnoba]

All good points to ponder guys, thanks. Here are some more points to chew on;

IIRC Frozen reveled on day 2, before we lynched him, that Jimmy's killer was a woman. He was killed by the poisoner.

IMHO I don't think we have 2 killers per mafia team, that seems to be too many mafia in this rather small game, mafia to town ratio 4/18. It could be, but to me, it seems like we have 2 killers, one shooter, and one poisoner, since the MO is the same for each of their respective kills. Two mafia teams one member each. Especially since our results seem not to be conclusive. I do think the killers could be wearing wigs though. That could be why Makrell is getting different color hair for the same killer, or it could be like the size, more of a range, and not exact. Dark hair could be a dark red. Or his is mafia and just lying, trying to throw us off. But if he is, wouldn't he be trying to throw us off the poisoner and not the shooter, since he fits more to the poisoner info we have so far. WIFOM?

So here is what we have so far, I put them under the same MO heading.

Killer 1- shooter:

1. medium build
2. dark hair
3. red hair, rather large build

Killer 2 - poisoner:

1. rather small person
2. dark hair
3. woman
4. medium build person with brown hair


Since we have more conclusive evidence for the poisoner so far, I think today we try and lynch that killer.
The only 2 player that fit the poisoner's profile are; BSmith and Makrell. Makrell seems fishy to me (sorry no pun intended) but he is being "helpful" by posting his results, I'm going to let him slide this round, and Vote: BSmith. We shall see what happens when he is reveled, and if he is innocent then we know we lynch Makrell next round.

[Makrell]

Unvote: vote Bsmith

[Riedquat]

O.o with this activity level we better get this right! Vote: Bsmith

[BSmith]

I am going to vote: Makrell mainly to save my skin. I know it isn't me that is the perpetrator. It seems to me that we can't rely on any one source too much, as the info could be easily corrupted. And let’s not forget about this:

Roles are revealed upon death, so if DF turns out be innocent, then either Makrell lied or his results aren't trustworthy. In the hypothesis DF is innocent, we'll end up lynching Makrell and then we will learn how much investigation results are worth in this game.

We lynched DF mainly on Makrell’s reports. Could be that we are getting fed fake or incorrect info?

[Ishmael]

I am going to vote: Makrell mainly to save my skin. I know it isn't me that is the perpetrator. It seems to me that we can't rely on any one source too much, as the info could be easily corrupted. And let’s not forget about this:

We lynched DF mainly on Makrell’s reports. Could be that we are getting fed fake or incorrect info?

As mentioned earlier, the results on the poisoner gave an equal possibility of Darth Feather, Makrell and yourself being scum. These could technically be false information, but since we have two sets of complimentary results and the scum can only post fake results once (I think? My recollection is poor), I'm inclined to believe them. Given that I've found your posts a little more scummy than Makrell's and I'll be receiving information on Makrell later:

vote: BSmith

[Jarema]

'BSmith, you have to die', someone said.
'Me? Why?'
'Because you are black and small woman! In addition, you have brown hair!'
'No, you are clearly mistaken. Please, nooo! Look at me!! I am a man! A very large and blond man! Ask any genetic, that could be confirmed!
DO NOT BELIEVE YOUR EYES!'

And that was BSmith's last words.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

BSmith was a serial killer

Night 4 begins

[Makrell]

i think this makes one more reason to come out with ones results.

[Diana Abnoba]

So it seems we got the poisoner, we will know for sure tonight. The shooter should be the only one left now to lynch.

[Jarema]

once more, I have to extend night a little bit

[Jarema]

Makrell was found dead in his room. He was killed by bullets. And when I use plural form, I mean lot of them. Investigators collected more than fifty shells from the floor, and the killer didn’t miss with more than two shots.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Makrell was an innocent movie analyst

Day 5 begins

[Makrell]

Can i still discuss? and bring up the info which i have already given in the thread?

[Jarema]

Can i still discuss? and bring up the info which i have already given in the thread?

yes.

just no new info

[Riedquat]

Can i still discuss? and bring up the info which i have already given in the thread?

I thought dead can talk... but not sure... [cross-posted with jarema?]

Living players
1. Riedquat, medium Caucasian man, bald
2. Ignoramus, medium African American man, bald
3. Ishmael, medium Caucasian woman with red hair
4. dcmort93, rather large Caucasian male with red hair
5. Csargo, rather large African American woman with red hair
6. Diana Abnoba, rather small Asian American woman with blond hair
7. B-Wing, very small Asian American man with brown hair
8. Andres, very small African American woman with black hair

What we .... know?
Night 0 kills:
Jimmy: Dark hair*, rather small build*, poisoned - BSmith
Jarema: ? hair, medium build, shot

Night 1 kills:
LazyMcCrow: Brown hair*, medium build*, poisoned - BSmith
Sprig: Dark hair, medium build*, shot

Night 2 kills:
Beefy: Red hair, rather large build, shot

Night 3 kills:
edse: ? hair, ? build, shot
ACIN: ? hair, ? build, poisoned - BSmith

Night 4 kills:
Makrell: ? , shot

Common denominator: medium-rather large build, dark/red haired. If there isn't a way to disguise your corporal build, for now we can clear Andres, B-wing and Diana Abnoba from our suspect list.

1. Riedquat, medium Caucasian man, bald
2. Ignoramus, medium African American man, bald
3. Ishmael, medium Caucasian woman with red hair
4. dcmort93, rather large Caucasian male with red hair
5. Csargo, rather large African American woman with red hair

Ishmael claimed he psychoanalysed me and someone analyzed me so for the time being I clear him from my list... ideas, thoughts, clues?

[Diana Abnoba]

I got results that edse's killer was medium build. So that is 2 medium build results we have so far and 1 rather large. Does anyone have the hair color of the killer in their results? Does anyone have the sex of the killer in their results? Any other results, I think it may be a good time to post results, since we only have 1 more killer out there, we are in a good position to win.
I'm leaning towards the red hair since that is what Makrell gave us as his results and he turned up innocent now. The only medium red hair player is Ishmael, but I agree with Riedquat, as I too have been asked to be psychoanalysed today. So I'm willing to give Ishmael a pass for today and see what happens. But on the other hand this could be a really good cover story for the mafia. I think everyone still alive needs to post their results so we get this right.

[Ishmael]

Remember that a result of medium build has an equal probability of the killer actually being rather small, medium or rather large. I agree with Diana that we should treat Makrell's results as reliable for now (the killer could have been wearing a wig, but there's got to be some reason for them to not do that all the time). Thus, the only person fitting the bill (other than me) is Csargo.

vote: Csargo

Also, as noted I tested Diana Abnoba last night, although I'll have to wait until the end of the day phase to get the results. With that said, looking at the dead players list I get the feeling that all the profilers are dead, so my results don't do much other than show where I was at night.

[Diana Abnoba]

@ Ishmael

Also dcmort93 fits the bill.



from above;

3. Ishmael, medium Caucasian woman with red hair
4. dcmort93, rather large Caucasian male with red hair
5. Csargo, rather large African American woman with red hair

[Diana Abnoba]

Okay so we don't have a bandwagon of one, Vote: dcmort93 for now.

Hey where is everyone, come on people, we need some discussion and results posted here. Please. Thanks.

[Riedquat]

uff... I slept like 16 hours straight... and lost my wits...

Vote: Csargo ?

[Riedquat]

forgot to bold

Vote: Csargo

[Jarema]

Day ended.

Csargo has been lynched due to two votes (Ishmael, Riedquat).

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Csargo was an innocent profiler

Another night begins

[Diana Abnoba]

Well that was a disappointing round.

@ Ishmael

So what were your results today?

[Ishmael]

Ah, dammit. Right after I complain that all the profilers are dead, I lynch a profiler.

My result was that you have borderline personality, Diana.

[Jarema]

Diana was sitting in her apartment, watching movies from her home cinema. That was a strange hobby of her – movies about people being murdered. Soon, similar movie would be made about herself. Bullets devastated both her body and her tv set.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Diana Abnoba was an innocent movie analyst

Day 6 begins. It will be a little shorter this time.

OOC: level of activity is alarmingly low. C’mon people.

[Darth Feather]

They shouldn't have lynched me

[Makrell]

Living players
1. Riedquat, medium Caucasian man, bald
2. Ignoramus, medium African American man, bald
3. Ishmael, medium Caucasian woman with red hair
4. dcmort93, rather large Caucasian male with red hair
5.B-Wing, very small Asian American man with brown hair
6. Andres, very small African American woman with black hair

Only the four first are viable. Ishmael is confirmed profiler. I think it is Riedquat, he uses wigs.

[Riedquat]

They shouldn't have lynched me

You still can contribute from your grave...

Dead before getting to use a wig!!

[Darth Feather]

Can't..... busy complaining.

[Riedquat]

Wow! With this level of activity we better get it right!

Living players:

1. Riedquat, medium Caucasian man, bald
2. Ignoramus, medium African American man, bald
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3. Ishmael, medium Caucasian woman with red hair
4. dcmort93, rather large Caucasian male with red hair
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5. B-Wing, very small Asian American man with brown hair
6. Andres, very small African American woman with black hair

2 with wrong body size, both inactive
2 with right body size but bald, only 1 shown active (me)
2 with right body size and right(?) hair colour, only 1 shown active (Ishmael)

I'm going with dcmort but have my doubts, Diana pointed to him yesterday and got killed at night...doubts...