Iran and US future allies?

[Buzghush]

Iran is already ally of the US. They just pretend that they are not. But, in near future, they will declare their friendship, IMHO. So, yes, Iran and US future allies.

Btw, this says a lot.

[Beskar]

Iran is already ally of the US. They just pretend that they are not. But, in near future, they will declare their friendship, IMHO. So, yes, Iran and US future allies.

Whilst on a level there is a lot of co-operation based on more abstract means as they both require things from eachother, full co-operation is a very unlikely event with a regime classified as despots. Would take a few years and the death of Khomeini for some serious stabilization between the US and Iran.

[Kadagar_AV]

Whilst on a level there is a lot of co-operation based on more abstract means as they both require things from eachother, full co-operation is a very unlikely event with a regime classified as despots. Would take a few years and the death of Khomeini for some serious stabilization between the US and Iran.

Uh.... Not to mention that Iranians see USA as a rogue state, that has meddled in their national affairs with devastating results...

IMHO, too much bad blood for them to ally up anytime soon.

Let's try to remember that half the world absolutely HATE USA.

[Fragony]

Uh.... Not to mention that Iranians see USA as a rogue state, that has meddled in their national affairs with devastating results...

IMHO, too much bad blood for them to ally up anytime soon.

Let's try to remember that half the world absolutely HATE USA.

If half the world means Scandinavia perhaps, otherwise your goggles are kinda off. The west ruined the oppertunity to win the support of the generation that could have changed the regime over there. These things have cycles, the Iranian youth of this day know only the mullahs rule, not the Shah. Previous generation knew only the Shah. Iran is ripe for a change that is in everybody's advantage, excepts for these goat-herders that are in charge there now.

[Kagemusha]

I have to wonder what is the relationship between Turkey and Iran? Maybe Turkey could act as a bridge between US and Iran?

[Fragony]

I have to wonder what is the relationship between Turkey and Iran? Maybe Turkey could act as a bridge between US and Iran?

You mean Nato-member Turkey? The relationship isn't particulary good between these two. They are total opposites, the real power in Turkey is still the army despite Erdogans best efforts, and being secular is something they take very seriously because of Ataturks legacy. That's quite the contrast with Iran's islamic regime. They don't have anything to discuss diplomatically.

[Kagemusha]

You mean Nato-member Turkey? The relationship isn't particulary good between these two. They are total opposites, the real power in Turkey is still the army despite Erdogans best efforts, and being secular is something they take very seriously because of Ataturks legacy. That's quite the contrast with Iran's islamic regime. They don't have anything to discuss diplomatically.

But they dont seem to be hostile either, so are they just basically ignoring each other?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Uh....Let's try to remember that half the world absolutely HATE USA.

Maybe they do, but the love "The King."

[Montmorency]

I have to wonder what is the relationship between Turkey and Iran? Maybe Turkey could act as a bridge between US and Iran?

I wonder if that pipeline the Turks are sneaking into Iraqi Kurdistan won't precipitate a war with Iraq or even Iran at some point...

[Kagemusha]

I wonder if that pipeline the Turks are sneaking into Iraqi Kurdistan won't precipitate a war with Iraq or even Iran at some point...

Thats a good point.. Though Iraq hardly can do anything. The whole Kurdish issue is quite intriguing in the scale of the whole area. At least what all Turkey, Iraq and Iran has common is large Kurdish minority.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

You know that old saw about politics and bedfellows.

In 1918 the USA participated in an invasion of the Soviet Union and actively supported the White Russian military and the Czech legion. Despite business connections throughout the 1920s, the USA did not recognize the Soviet Union as the legitimate government of Russia until 1933. While formal relations existed from that point, the US mood toward the Soviet Union with its purges and mass starvations was fairly negative, peaking in 1939 with American disgust over the Non-aggression pact with Nazi Germany. A little over two years later we are their military allies and the US merchant marine is risking lives to get trucks to the Soviets.

Alliances are not always friendships and none of us can tell with certainty what the future will bring 10 years hence.

[Kadagar_AV]

Maybe they do, but the love "The King."

As do I. Still doesn't mean I like USA.

I think people here underestimate how much certain parts of the world hate USA. Mainly, of course, the parts of the world you have bombed or otherwise intervened in a negative way.

People tend to get miffed when you blow up family members, and it takes more than Elvis Presley and a generation to wash the blood away from your hands.

Me? I think Sir Mix-A-Lot makes up for about 4,7 cruise missiles and maybe killing some unwanted family member, like that uncle feeling up the bums of younger girls.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Tempting, GC, quite tempting.....