Orcas our buddies in the Sea, we treat so bad.

**The Stranger** · 01-16-2014, 00:19

i i heard a story in australia about how a pack of orcas were helping whalers catch other whales by somehow driving them into a bay every now and then. as a reward they crew would afterwards give the tongue of the whale to the orcas. one time though there was a big storm and in their hurry to get home safely the captain decided to leave before giving the tongue to the orcas. that was the end of their deal, after being shown that the humans could not be trusted, the orcas never helped them again.

i dont know if its true, or just a local myth, but its a nice story :P

**Fragony** · 01-16-2014, 01:21

Originally Posted by The Stranger

i i heard a story in australia about how a pack of orcas were helping whalers catch other whales by somehow driving them into a bay every now and then. as a reward they crew would afterwards give the tongue of the whale to the orcas. one time though there was a big storm and in their hurry to get home safely the captain decided to leave before giving the tongue to the orcas. that was the end of their deal, after being shown that the humans could not be trusted, the orcas never helped them again.

i dont know if its true, or just a local myth, but its a nice story :P

Proof, orca's are NSB'ers ;)

**Kagemusha** · 01-16-2014, 13:21

Originally Posted by The Stranger

i i heard a story in australia about how a pack of orcas were helping whalers catch other whales by somehow driving them into a bay every now and then. as a reward they crew would afterwards give the tongue of the whale to the orcas. one time though there was a big storm and in their hurry to get home safely the captain decided to leave before giving the tongue to the orcas. that was the end of their deal, after being shown that the humans could not be trusted, the orcas never helped them again.

i dont know if its true, or just a local myth, but its a nice story :P

Interesting story. I will look into it, if i can find something concerning it.

**The Stranger** · 01-16-2014, 16:38

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killer_...den,_Australia
http://www.wildaboutwhales.com.au/Wh...of-twofold-bay
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/05/ar...mart.html?_r=0

it doesnt say anything about the end of the cooperation, but there seems to be truth to the story i heard :P

i also found this

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/episo...er-whale/1045/

Legend has it that when a local resident killed a beached orca — in essence breaking the pact with the orcas — the killer whales also left the waters around Eden. Clode, however, doesn’t believe that’s the reason the orcas left. “It’s tempting to conclude that the killer whales started leaving after the death of Jackson [the beached orca]. And there was a loss of that trust that had built up between humans and killer whales. But it’s hard to exclude the fact that the food supply was declining; the number of whales being caught was declining dramatically.”

**Kagemusha** · 01-16-2014, 16:45

Wow! That is pretty amazing. 90 years of cooperation between humans and Orcas. So basically it has been at least couple generations of Orcas of same pod that continued the cooperation. These creatures never stop amazing me.

**The Stranger** · 01-16-2014, 16:51

yea atleast 2 generations i guess, possibly 3.

it also gives pause to think about how our current way of living makes the aforementioned cooperation impossible. Even for people who would not want to live that way, they are the victim of it because others do and don't care, in the broadest sense.

**Kagemusha** · 01-16-2014, 22:00

Originally Posted by The Stranger

yea atleast 2 generations i guess, possibly 3.

it also gives pause to think about how our current way of living makes the aforementioned cooperation impossible. Even for people who would not want to live that way, they are the victim of it because others do and don't care, in the broadest sense.

You are absolutely right. If you have not yet watched the BBC document from my starting post about Luna, who got lost from his pod and tried to make friends with humans. You should. It is an good example how hard it is for Orca to survive in habitat crowded with humans, even if there was no malice towards it.

**phonicsmonkey** · 01-16-2014, 23:17

I have found them fascinating since I saw the BBC documentary where they were filmed playing 'tennis' with a seal pup by hitting it into the air with their tails. Made me think they are more similar to us humans than we realise, in ways that we might not like to admit...

I couldn't find that clip, but check this out and thank your lucky stars that they don't consider us prey:

http://youtu.be/hPge_0lea3o