Wealth distribution

[Andres]

Possibly, but you can also just buy a cow and get a freezer to put the meat in it, 400 euro per cow max, more than enough for a year. Get some ground, I am going to, it's fun as well to watch things grow and care for it. I am still on the waiting list for ground but it will be mine. It isn't enough to feed me for a year but it remains a good proposition, just needs some shoveling. Back to basics. Or you can blame the rich for being rich of course, has a good word for jealousy-tax been invented allready. You won't need them if you show a little bit of initiative.

Yes. Of course. All those slum and ghetto inhabitants need to do is to take the money they don't have from the savings account they don't have to buy land they can't afford. It's amazing how poverty still exists while there are such visionary viewpoints and solutions available on random gaming fora.

I'd also like to know the line of thought that brings you from "person X cares about the living conditions of the poor and deems it injust and unfair that 85 people together have as much wealth as 3.5 billion people together" to "X is just jealous because he isn't rich".

Please explain to me why "caring about the poor and injustness" equals "being jealous". Enlighten me with a revolutionary essay.

[Fragony]

Why an essay, you just can't blame the rich for others being poor. The really really rich are mostly very old family's where the money goes from generation to generation. It's their money. Just because some have less doesn't mean they have a right on it. Back at ya, what is your justification for wanting their money? Because that is where it would be going to, taking their money, aka theft. Legalised, but still theft.

[Andres]

Why an essay, you just can't blame the rich for others being poor. The really really rich are mostly very old family's where the money goes from generation to generation. It's their money. Just because some have less doesn't mean they have a right on it. Back at ya, what is your justification for wanting their money? Because that is where it would be going to, taking their money, aka theft. Legalised, but still theft.

Jesus Christ used parables to explain his viewpoints.

I'll do the same:

On a sunny day, a rich businessman was sitting in his yacuzzi on his luxury yacht in the Medditerranean. Sipping champagne in the company of a famous model, he heard a voice yelling.

"Hey! Excuse me? How far before I reach Malta?"

"Shut up!" the rich man yelled at the African. "Just keep swimming. Or drown. As if I care. But shut up!"

The model giggles and takes off her bikini.


If you need to ask the question why the rich should help the poor, then there's no point for me trying to explain

[Husar]

Back at ya, what is your justification for wanting their money?

Back at ya, what is their justification for wanting my money? You are aware that the wealth gap is getting wider because money is actually "trickling up", right? If it weren't then the wealth gap wouldn't get wider...

[Fragony]

Back at ya, what is their justification for wanting my money? You are aware that the wealth gap is getting wider because money is actually "trickling up", right? If it weren't then the wealth gap wouldn't get wider...

Do I want your money, never noticed it.

[Montmorency]

Do I want your money

!

So Mr. Above-average, I heard you were single...

[Husar]

Do I want your money, never noticed it.

Depends on which side of the wealth gap you're on.

[Fragony]

Depends on which side of the wealth gap you're on.

Well I am not on that side, far from it. I can manage.

[HoreTore]

It's not about "wanting anyones money", Frags.

It's about who gets what from the new money produced. Ie. making a model where you get a share reflecting the work you put in. We are not even close to that today. I don't get a share comparable to my effort, I get loads more than what I actually put in compared to effort and share of Joe Indiaman.

Why should I do less and earn more at the same time?

[Sarmatian]

Frags, you missed the point entirely. It's not about hating the rich for being rich.

The issue is that the wealth is concentrated in the hands of a very few people and they're using that to change the system. Gradual change to allow them to become even wealthier and wield even more influence.

That kind of system is unfair and is a threat to democracy in the long run.

[Husar]

On the topic of working hard, a contractor once told me that he is held by the parent company to work harder and increase profits.
However, when he increases his profits, the parent company will siphon off the additional profits so his own profits stay the same as they always were and in addition they will raise their expectations to the new, higher level and repirmand him if he does not meet the new expectations. It basically paid off for him to be just mediocre because then he has to work less and still gets the same profit that he would get if he tried to please his superiors. The parent company was a multi-national corporation that everybody here knows btw.

Another person told me a similar story. Basically he worked hard and his boss was fine with it and paid him every month until he found out that the person was not an apprentice but unskilled labor but was paid apprentice wages. Suddenly the boss raged about how the person had been paid too much all these months even though there never was a problem with the work that was done and the apprentice-level wage had never been questioned before...

So the real way to get rich is to create artificial barriers that keep the money on your side and away from others. To say that hard work pays off is complete lunacy unless your job offers a decent system of promotions where you actually have a chance to move up through hard work instead of slick talk or crawling into someone's behind.