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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuuvi View Post
    How many people who have been cheated on thought it would never happen because their spouse never cheated on anyone in the past? It's not logical to assume that because someone has never done something they can't or never will. The probability that they will do something such as adultery may be very low depending on the person but it's never an impossibility.

    The FCC is a government agency with regulatory authority. They do have the potential to start pressuring news organisations to report the news the way they want them to. As I said before this might not be their intent but their is nothing unreasonable with being concerned.
    They already have the ability to shut down media stations. They can already use that ability to force news stations to report the news they want them to report.

    But they don't.


    I fail to see how a research initiative changes anything when they already have the means necessary to make the media dance to their tune.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    They already have the ability to shut down media stations. They can already use that ability to force news stations to report the news they want them to report.

    I fail to see how a research initiative changes anything when they already have the means necessary to make the media dance to their tune.
    Yea exactly, that is the point. They have the power to shut down media stations. If they want the media to report the news a certain way, don't they need to know how and what the media is reporting? How else are they supposed to know who is and who isn't reporting the news the right way? Did you read the opinion piece?

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    don't they need to know how and what the media is reporting?
    You mean they need to watch TV?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    You mean they need to watch TV?
    Does watching TV give you an idea of what's going on behind the scenes? Does it let you know how the broadcaster decides which news stories to report and how? I'm sorry but at this point I am going to have to agree with Fisherking, you are so closed minded that you just refuse to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuuvi View Post
    Does watching TV give you an idea of what's going on behind the scenes?
    Do you need that knowledge in order to figure out which news stations are hurting "the powers that be"?

    Why, exactly, is news selection a vital criteria for media shutdown abuse?
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    Partisan by what standard? The study is an attempt to counter the lie-factory that is Fox News, and to establish some standards elsewhere (CNN... MSNBC... they're all trash and everyone knows it). At least he's not trying to cut PBS (the last bastion of real news on TV!) like the other party.



    All administrations are partisan to one extent or another. If you trust one with the power to censor you trust them all.

    If you don’t see potential for abuse you are wearing blinders. What would you have said if the Bush administration had proposed such measures?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
    All administrations are partisan to one extent or another. If you trust one with the power to censor you trust them all.

    If you don’t see potential for abuse you are wearing blinders. What would you have said if the Bush administration had proposed such measures?
    Good points. Censorship is a poor road down which to travel. I favor it only in highly restricted -- and temporary -- instances (such as prior to and during the opening phases of a military operation).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    The survey seems like a misguided but honest attempt to do something about the sorry state of our news reporting. It will likely be a shortlived effort.
    GC, admittedly the stated premise behind the study sounds like what is needed. But as we have seen time and again the stated goal gets perverted down the line.

    Is it really a power you would place in the hands of a partisan government and not expect it to get abused?


    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Where, exactly, was did I "point up a link that has nothing to do with the topic"...?

    And when you have previously stated your admiration of a completely nutjob movie claiming perpetual motion works and free energy exists(Thrive), you can't expect me to just forget about that, sorry.

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    Obviously that was a thread you completely misunderstood, and apparently still do. I stated my skepticism from the outset, saying they presented some factual information, and some not, and reached wrong conclusions.

    The idea was like examining a complex math problem to see where the individual had worked the steps correctly but made an error in calculations.

    We know the answer is wrong but want to find why. You were fixed on there only being a wrong answer and refused to examine the steps.

    You still seem fixated on your own misperception. Your mind was closed to such an exercise, as it somehow threatened your world view and you chose to attack the messenger without your really understanding the message.

    You are still attacking based on your own misinterpretation of what occurred in a completely different topic and don’t seem to be able to let it go.

    Stop obsessing, have a stiff drink and relax. It will all be ok.
    Last edited by Fisherking; 02-24-2014 at 09:06. Reason: wrong quote. lol


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