How Long is Long Enough?

[HoreTore]

I went through all the beers they offered in pubs in Berlin.

I was disappointed. There was one drinkable, but I can't remember its name.... "Dunkel" something.

[Fisherking]

I went through all the beers they offered in pubs in Berlin.

I was disappointed. There was one drinkable, but I can't remember its name.... "Dunkel" something.

Going to Berlin to drink beer is like going to Stockholm to find good Mexican food.

It is a crap shoot and the locals are not help at all in knowing what is good or bad.

Prussians are to beer what American Bureaucracy is to efficiency.

I don’t know what Brandenburg does well. There must be something.

Most larger beers have been taken over by Heinekens, or some of the American Breweries. The results are disappointingly obvious.

Next time you go for Beer try Munich. The Airport is also very good. I don’t think you found that great in Berlin either.

Better luck next time.

[HoreTore]

Going to Berlin to drink beer is like going to Stockholm to find good Mexican food.

It is a crap shoot and the locals are not help at all in knowing what is good or bad.

Prussians are to beer what American Bureaucracy is to efficiency.

I don’t know what Brandenburg does well. There must be something.

Most larger beers have been taken over by Heinekens, or some of the American Breweries. The results are disappointingly obvious.

Next time you go for Beer try Munich. The Airport is also very good. I don’t think you found that great in Berlin either.

Better luck next time.

Drinking beer wasn't the purpose of the trip. It's just something that always happens when I'm travelling...

[ReluctantSamurai]

There are more Types of beer in Bavaria than most other places have breweries. Even the hyper critical should be able to find beer they like, or stay damn drunk for a few days trying.

Here's an idea....why not invite Chinese and Japanese leaders to a big party and serve.....Bavarian beer

The flow of hate comes while China is building up its military, leaving its neighbors on edge. Beijing will spend $148 billion on its military this year, up from $139 billion in 2013. It launched its first aircraft carrier in 2012, and is building a fleet of submarines that it hopes will outnumber the American fleet.

Not much good is going to come from this.....

[Montmorency]

Not much good is going to come from this

I remember doing some research back in 2010; I discovered that in the past decade, China's defense budget had increased by over 500%, in constant USD.

Now, that's working with the stated budget. Going by estimates of the black budget for defence, it was more like 750%.

So, in the past 15 years China's defence spending has increased anywhere from 500-1000% - impressive. You don't spend like that just for show.

Or maybe you do?

[Montmorency]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...udget_2012.png

Going by that graph, which perhaps uses low estimates, and the figure you quoted, it seems that it could even be something like 1500%-2000%!

Damn it China, at this rate you're going to ruin it for people who complain that the US spends as much as the next X countries or whatever...

[Brenus]

I had a long thought about this subject. And I just realised that the blame others Nations or populations for not forgetting or forgiving is a little bit odd.
I am a French leaving in UK and there is not one year without a TV series or show about the war against the French, celebration of Waterloo, Trafalgar (2 commemorations in 2005) or Agincourt. One of the most sold newspapers in UK is openly Francophobic. So, the perpetuation of certain memory is not foreign to our societies.
Then, we are not very comfortable as well with our past crimes. We debate a lot in this forum about History and who start what (there is again a thread about who start WW1) and positions are still touchy.
I, as an individual, never experiment a invasion or destruction on my country. However, I still feel anger when I see on a documentary the German Troops parading in Paris in 1940, and the German population celebrating Hitler for the revenge. Not that I will start a new war against Germany or Germans, but the feeling is still there. And campaigns like the “cheese-eater surrendering monkeys” from the recent past by the US and UK media didn’t help. And do note that France never fought against the USA (ok, a lot against UK). So the hate against the French in the USA is not based on real things but on a perception built by association with the UK history by media and politicians (as even Bush had to concede in a vain try to cure what his administration started, France was historically the first ally of the USA even before they existed).
So, can we blame the Chinese who really suffered of real aggression and rapes and slaughters from the Japanese to still have strong feeling against Japan? What time is needed to heal the wounds? From my French experience in UK, it will be never done as much it can be used to canalise and divert the population’s attention from real problems within the country, or when it can be used to raise the moral of a country…

[Strike For The South]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...udget_2012.png

Going by that graph, which perhaps uses low estimates, and the figure you quoted, it seems that it could even be something like 1500%-2000%!

Damn it China, at this rate you're going to ruin it for people who complain that the US spends as much as the next X countries or whatever...

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