Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
Yes, because the sedation part is the really important aspect of our slaughter regime... Get rid of that, and it's all daisies and happiness.

Look, I don't really care about respect for religious laws. But I find it appalling how we can even begin to call our ways of handling animals "humane". Focusing on the last 5 seconds of an animals life is idiotic.

And neither does it mean I will stop eating meat just because we needlessly torture animals(which we do, sedation or not). I can't enjoy my food if I don't know that some living being has been subjected to pain and suffering in order to make me happy and full.

We are inflicting needless pain in animals on economic grounds. I don't see how that's morally different from pain inflicted on religious grounds.
Takes a bit longer than 5 seconds, sometimes minutes if the cut was wrong (no second cut is allowed either).

It simply isn't needed that they are fully concious just because some people believe in fairytales. The sale of Kosher meat isn't forbidden so they can still import it. I don't give a crap about their religious rules, they aren't important. It's the same meat, but aquired in a more humane way. If it's such a big thing for them, there is this mythical place called 'not Denmark'.
I hope the Netherlands soon follows Denmark's example. Here they came up with the halve arsed compromise that a vet puts the animal down if it isn't dead after 45 seconds (yes it can take that long), completily unrealistic to pull of, and again it's simply not needed. A shock or a boltgun takes them out fine, than they can proceed with cutting the throat. If that isn't fully kosher, screw it then, eat fallafels.