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    Default Re: Special Forces - who is the best?

    I would rate 'best' based on the success of missions. Unfortunately, we do not know those statistics.
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    From what I've been reading so far, It seems to me that Delta Force are the elite of the elite. The mere fact that they are not officially recognized as existing by the US government tells you something.

    Not sure how to judge who the best are - they are all obviously vastly superior to regular troops, not to mention civilians. And information on secret operations is rarely, if ever, disclosed publicly. If anyone happens across an interesting read or video, please share. Here is something:

    "SEALs stand for Sea Air and land Specialists they are very dynamic, they are always doing something new, right now SEALs operate every where and are a very elite special operations group, SEALs do Direct action missions, Hostage rescue, counter terrorism but at its core it was created for direct action, in and out missions, get in, get the job done, get out but they also do other stuff if needed. Regular SEALs have a Tier 2 designation.

    Green berets, also know as Special Forces have a lot of roles too, but at its core they are force multipliers, they go in a war zone, blend in with the local population and form an army, I like to call them elite teachers, but they don't just do that kind of stuff, you can check it out on Wikipedia, I'm just telling the simple version. Green berets have a Tier 2 designation.

    Delta Force is currently one of the worlds premier counter terrorism unit/Special missions unit, they are one of the top dogs of the world. They are recruit primarily from the Green berets the Rangers,these men are hand picked among the best of the best out of those units, and attend a selection process, where about 95% that try fail, and those that fail are already a very elite caliber of warrior, it's all very challenging and stressful, those that make it till the end and officially are Delta Force operators, still have to prove themselves because in those first 5 years they are looked at as the new guy, and still have to train and train and train, it's like being in your job 24/7, even when you back home having dinner with you family you can be called for an op, you have to pack your stuff, say bye to everybody, not tell them where your going and 8 hours later you are doing a black operation, In some **** country, on the other side of the world. Delta had some problems in the beginning just like DEVGRU but right now both Delta force and DEVGRU are running like well oiled machines. Delta Force has a Tier 1 designation.

    Just a bonus, DEVGRU
    You probably already know about them. DEVGRU recruits from the regular SEAL Team and they recruit the best to go through their selection process, once they pass they go to green team, etc etc, same story as Delta Force, but their drop out numbers is lower due to the way they were trained, their training gave them a lot of metal strength, just a regular SEAL is already a very very very elite caliber of warrior, now there's a culture difference between Delta and DEVGRU, Since DEVGRU operators come from the regular SEAL teams, and since the SEAL teams are all about direct action, hostage rescue and what not the government and the Navy Use them more for those types of missions, like all the hostage rescues missions you heard of and the mission to kill Bin Laden, while Delta came more from green berets which are all about winning hearts and minds, training people etc and that's why they aren't used in to do the types of missions DEVGRU does. But Delta also does the type of missions DEVGRU does and DEVGRU also does the types of missions Delta does. Both have a strong relationship with the SAS the SBS, and the SASR, they train together, fight together and learn from each other making them the best of the best together both at the same level although DEVGRU and maybe Delta Force have an extra edge over them because of the unlimited amounts of cash they have, they can buy and build everything they want and get the best gear you know, all the classified cool stuff, everything, weapons, vehicle, scopes etc and are able to get more advanced training, due to the crazy amounts of cash.DEVGRU has a Tier 1 designation, they are also the elite of the elite.

    For more information on them, pick up, SEAL Team six memoirs of an elite Navy SEAL sniper, No Easy Day by Mark Owen, Inside Delta Force by Eric haney, and Fearless by Eric Blehm.
    Check these out http://www.military.com/video/forces...1163917907001/
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    Default Re: Special Forces - who is the best?

    Even that doesn't help as the missions were different.

    What we can safely say is they are all good, that they're given good training and expensive gadgets. Beyond that, we don't know a thing.

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    Well, Deltaforce and DEVGRU have Tier 1 designation so they get the toughest, most secret missions out there. We don't know anything about Delta missions. We know that DEVGRU whacked Bin Laden, the operation was stellar. Check the first link, they talk about it about 1/3 of the way.

    Interesting details on operations in the further videos. Check out from min. 3 and onwards:



    Another interesting vid to watch

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    Default Re: Special Forces - who is the best?

    Spetznas are so secret, noone really knows whether it's Spetznas, Spetznaz, Speznaz, Spetsnaz, Spetsnas, ....

    And they can rap better:



    Delta Force are just amateurs in comparison who need to leak propaganda to the military channel because noone wants to join them otherwise.


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