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    Don't worry guys! Hannibal may be at the gates, but he can't get in because the Siege AI is still broken!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fallen851 View Post
    Don't worry guys! Hannibal may be at the gates, but he can't get in because the Siege AI is still broken!
    I laughed.
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    Posted on twc by Craig or Will, not sure which it was. And everything aside, I also hate how they are completely ignoring the org. They don't even bother to come around here anymore. This is where it all started back in the day. Am I wrong?



    Hey all,

    Some news from the studio!

    We’re delighted to announce the next major Campaign Pack DLC for Total War: ROME II will be centred around one of Rome’s most fearsome adversaries: Hannibal.#

    Dropping players into the Western Mediterranean at the outbreak of the 2nd Punic War, Hannibal at the Gates features a new campaign map focused on the tinderbox geopolitical situation that brought two ancient world superpowers to all-out war; with sworn rivals Scipio and Hannibal at the very heart of the conflict.#

    Five playable factions will feature a wealth of new units. Main protagonists Rome and Carthage will benefit from a new civil tech tree based around diplomacy, while the challenge in the shadow of these mighty empires for newcomers Syacuse, the Arevaci and the Lusitani will be formidable.

    In addition to this, another significant free content update for ROME II will also drop soon, benefitting all players regardless of whether they own any DLC. Details will be revealed in the next episode of Rally Point, coming soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Outsider View Post
    Posted on twc by Craig or Will, not sure which it was. And everything aside, I also hate how they are completely ignoring the org. They don't even bother to come around here anymore. This is where it all started back in the day. Am I wrong?
    I tried hard to get them to come back permanently but it seems like most of their social interaction is gone, completely gone from this forum at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Outsider View Post
    In addition to this, another significant free content update for ROME II will also drop soon, benefitting all players regardless of whether they own any DLC. Details will be revealed in the next episode of Rally Point, coming soon.
    Hmmm, they have me cautiously optimistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fallen851 View Post
    Don't worry guys! Hannibal may be at the gates, but he can't get in because the Siege AI is still broken!
    Actually this particular hannibal brought a lighter, so he's just one torch away from you at this very moment if he is in fact already at your gates.

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    The trailer looks nice though, and so is the screenshot from the game. I love those Carthaginian detailed shields.
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    I was hoping that the next major DLC with a new campaign would be a Barbarian Invasion like the ROME I, with the same map with the core game, transfering the player to the 3rd and 4th centuries AD, fighting to save the empire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fallen851 View Post
    Don't worry guys! Hannibal may be at the gates, but he can't get in because the Siege AI is still broken!
    Very good!!

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    Actually guys I think I just might get this one AND CiG together if I like how it's done. The major obstacle before Hannibal (apart from the logistical nightmare of sustaining his army in northern Italy) was political opposition back in Carthage. In fact, had he received the proper reinforcements he asked for, Rome would have fallen.

    He destroyed several Consular armies and managed to outmaneuver the biggest one, which had set sail to Spain. Upon returning to Carthage and dumping a miniature mountain of equestrian rings, and asking to get more troops, the politicians replied that "he obviously was doing well enough as it is". And Rome was notorious for her ability to churn out full fleshed out armies within the span of months to a a few years. I daresay as brilliant as he was as a strategist and tactician, he lacked Caesar's political cunning.

    Not to mention that Scipio was just a brilliant a commander, who had the full backing of Rome and her armies.
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    Don't worry guys! Hannibal may be at the gates, but he can't get in because the Siege AI is still broken!
    LMFAO!!
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    LOL, CA's totally lost it. I quite literally cannot believe the balls on these people. This game can't even provide players with working fundamentals 6 months after release and they wanna charge for more expansions that add a few trinkets to the game that should've already been there from the start? What happened to this company man?

    I can't even have a battle with the AI that provides me with a reasonable facsimile of warfare from the period. A battle. The fundamental feature the series was built upon. Every engagement results in an all out zergrush from the AI as soon as skirmishing units come within range of each other. No order of battle, no support between units in the same army, no esprit de corps among disciplined units. Phalangites simply breaking ranks and chasing cavalry units all over the battlefield like some mindless berserkers totally oblivious to the fact that they're abandoning their battle line and exposing their backs to the enemy. Phalangites! AI cavalry charges directly into the front of spear units bracing for it! How can this crap still be happening all these years later?!

    I mean, they can't even program the AI to attack in a coordinated fashion. They don't have to code in genius generalship, just the damn basics. March together, attack together, units support other units, protect the flanks, etc. Yes, there should be undisciplined units that are impetuous and attack regardless, but every AI unit?! 2 full stack AI armies assault a settlement and I can take a force of 11 units along with the garrison and march out to meet them and defeat them one at a time or pick off their units one after the other as they come running from the other side of the battlefield as the faster units leave the slower ones far behind. They have no sense of each other on the battlefield. I'm not even gonna get into all the other well known problems this game has, they can't even fix the most fundamental problem.

    We're all such huge geeks for the material that we put up with it for the most part cuz there's nothing else out there like this. But there's absolutely no way in Hell that I spend one single dime on anything else this company ever creates until they prove they're competent developers. I'm tired of being a sucker for this crap no matter how much I like the subject. That's why they never reply to the big threads about serious issues over at the official forum, cuz they can't fix them. They're not competent enough to. They're just trying to string everyone along with patches that improve the optimization a bit and fix a few bugs (no doubt necessary as well) while releasing more expansions every couple of months (CiG 2 months ago right?) to milk as much money out of this soon to be dead horse. There will always be players willing to open their wallets for them, so why should they care about fixing the difficult stuff? What a sad way for this series to go

    The only hope left for this game is that CA abandons the Warscape engine for their next release (if they don't I think it'll be DOA) and releases a full SDK to the community (the only way they'll ever do it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch View Post
    LOL, CA's totally lost it. I quite literally cannot believe the balls on these people. This game can't even provide players with working fundamentals 6 months after release and they wanna charge for more expansions that add a few trinkets to the game that should've already been there from the start? What happened to this company man?
    greed happened :)

    and it's working. people keep buying this crap.
    So don't expect it to get better with future games

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    No no you are right. It's not going to improve at all. What they are doing now, cheap eye candy games without souls, is working best for them. With the minimum amount of labour and passion they are making big money. So they will just keep doing that. They have managed to create a new gamer base formed by young people and casual gamers so they don't care about the old, core fans of the game. We are a dying breed and they know it. So they are just shovelling up the dirt over the grave. I mean look at the org. It's sadly becoming a ghost town. That's because it had the oldest and most mature total War gamers since the beginning. They are dropping out now, because it's not the same thing anymore. I swear With all the technology and their so called huge budget, I'm not getting half the satisfaction i had from the original medieval. That was ten years ago for God's sake. And I can't even play my old copy of medieval because ca does not support windows 8 for it. I am not buying a single future total War title until I see solid reviews from the real total War players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myth View Post
    Actually guys I think I just might get this one AND CiG together if I like how it's done.
    You know I've given a big thumbs up to CIG. I like it so much more than the main campaign. If they would just tone down the agent spam a little, I'd be hard pressed to say I didn't like it almost as much as ROTS (to use a similar DLC expansion for comparison).

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    http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Factions

    Scroll to the bottom of the page and you will find the three "new" factions. Ok, I know that this will sound like whining randomly but I cant help but notice that this time around they werent even bothered to make faction icons "old" or antique looking..

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    Looks interesting.... but id like new factions without having to buy a dlc
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    Rome's embassy wearing an armor ! No wonder the weak rhetoric : why didn't they copy the best parts of this brillant speech, it would have provide the kids some interesting lines. Not talking about the unsheathed sword in a sacred place.

    Why does every TW trailer have to look like the 300 trailer with the same kind of build up and the same kind of climax and punch line always.

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