I don't understand any of this

[Kadagar_AV]

It's either Chuck Norris sneezing or God. You can pick whichever you think is likelier.

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I can agree on it maybe being a god. Question would be which one

[Myth]

Hawking states that the state of the universe prior to the big bang was a singularity, thus the laws of physics did not apply to it. it therefore, has no way of influencing the events after the big bang, and we have no way of explaining it as the rules do not apply to it. Thus, it can be ignored. Also, the light from the big bang was sort of discovered some decades ago, at least so he says in "A brief history of the universe". We also know that the universe is expanding rapidly and it is outspeeding its own gravitational pull, thus it will not collapse back into a singluarity.

How did that one proto-singularity, out of which all the universe appeared, come into being? I think we are a thousand years too early in asking this question. We are like dogs, trying to comprehend the moon.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Hawking states that the state of the universe prior to the big bang was a singularity, thus the laws of physics did not apply to it. it therefore, has no way of influencing the events after the big bang, and we have no way of explaining it as the rules do not apply to it. Thus, it can be ignored....

The perfect scientific assessment of God. The believer would assert that far from being ignored, no other question is as significant.

How did that one proto-singularity, out of which all the universe appeared, come into being? I think we are a thousand years too early in asking this question. We are like dogs, trying to comprehend the moon.

I take your point, but I would replace 'dogs' with "children." We are not lacking in intelligence, we only suffer a surfeit of ignorance.

[Kadagar_AV]

Hawking states that the state of the universe prior to the big bang was a singularity, thus the laws of physics did not apply to it. it therefore, has no way of influencing the events after the big bang, and we have no way of explaining it as the rules do not apply to it. Thus, it can be ignored. Also, the light from the big bang was sort of discovered some decades ago, at least so he says in "A brief history of the universe". We also know that the universe is expanding rapidly and it is outspeeding its own gravitational pull, thus it will not collapse back into a singluarity.

How did that one proto-singularity, out of which all the universe appeared, come into being? I think we are a thousand years too early in asking this question. We are like dogs, trying to comprehend the moon.

Uhm... Last I checked that was just a rival theory.

Leading theory is that dark matter will eventually start bringing things back to the centre, no?

[HoreTore]

Leading theory is that dark matter will eventually start bringing things back to the centre, no?

We still have no clue what dark matter is(hence the term "dark"), so any theories on how it ties into the bigger picture is far from complete.

[Kadagar_AV]

We still have little clue what dark matter is(hence the term "dark"), so any theories on how it ties into the bigger picture is far from complete.

Yeah... I didn't state it as fact, I just think it is currently the leading theory in the circles that have the brain capacity to actually understand this.

[HoreTore]

Yeah... I didn't state it as fact, I just think it is currently the leading theory in the circles that have the brain capacity to actually understand this.

There is a belief that these theories will be the leading theories once we have figured out what dark matter is.

You're jumping the gun a bit, I'm afraid...

We could, after all, end up discovering that there's no such thing as dark matter at all, like how we discovered that light does not need to pass through an aether.

[Kadagar_AV]

There is a belief that these theories will be the leading theories once we have figured out what dark matter is.

You're jumping the gun a bit, I'm afraid...

We could, after all, end up discovering that there's no such thing as dark matter at all, like how we discovered that light does not need to pass through an aether.

Honestly, I for one don't have the brain capacity to follow a percentile of what those minds are into.

I deeply respect them though.

[Myth]

I can agree on it maybe being a god. Question would be which one

My money is between Zeus, Ra, Odin and Tengri. I cannot see anyone less badass creating this universe.

[ICantSpellDawg]

I can agree on it maybe being a god. Question would be which one

Its is all the same one.

[Beskar]

Its is all the same one.

Time to add the god of fertility next to your crucifix then, with its characteristic enlarged size.

Some believe in animal spirits and others do not even have a 'god' as such. Jesus could be a rewriting of Zeus though, but I don't think he was known on cheating on his wife, who may or may not exist due to some.

Long story short, that is a silly statement which lacks understanding of the great diversity of religion. Only one which 'share' are the Christians, Muslims and Jews. Even then, sects of those have difference ideas and views on the makeup of 'god'. Is some one who is doubting the divinity of christ actually believing in the same god as some one who believes Jesus is the embodiment of god?

What defines a 'god' anyway? What if the big bang was an Alien Ships reactor-drive malfunction in a different universe, thus creating a pocket-universe of us. Does that make them 'god' ? or is the creator of the universe who created things which happened outside of their control in turn created us from said aliens given free-will.

The mind boggles on the amount of mental hoops which are completely ignored.

I am sure if there was an afterlife with an omnipotent being, they would be fully understanding of any lack of faith and enlighten us. So no need to worry about your eternal soul.

[Myth]

Time to add the god of fertility next to your crucifix then, with its characteristic enlarged size.

Some believe in animal spirits and others do not even have a 'god' as such. Jesus could be a rewriting of Zeus though, but I don't think he was known on cheating on his wife, who may or may not exist due to some.

Long story short, that is a silly statement which lacks understanding of the great diversity of religion. Only one which 'share' are the Christians, Muslims and Jews. Even then, sects of those have difference ideas and views on the makeup of 'god'. Is some one who is doubting the divinity of christ actually believing in the same god as some one who believes Jesus is the embodiment of god?

What defines a 'god' anyway? What if the big bang was an Alien Ships reactor-drive malfunction in a different universe, thus creating a pocket-universe of us. Does that make them 'god' ? or is the creator of the universe who created things which happened outside of their control in turn created us from said aliens given free-will.

The mind boggles on the amount of mental hoops which are completely ignored.

I am sure if there was an afterlife with an omnipotent being, they would be fully understanding of any lack of faith and enlighten us. So no need to worry about your eternal soul.

Religion and mythology blend in the times of antiquity. They used to serve a different purpose in those ancient societies. The plethora of ancients gods, spirits, heroes of old, great foes and so on are archetypes of human behaviour. They tell stories which concern the fundamental characteristics of humans. Religion often intertwined with the cultural rituals which marked the coming of age of young adults - a paramount point in one's life. Ancient religions are multifaceted, because there existed no such phenomenon as globalization back then. Each region, each tribe, each distinct peoples adde their own colour and taste to fundamentally the most basic and eternal of human stories. Love, war, betrayal, coming of age, death, motherhood, cunning etc.

The organized semitic religions tell us the same stories in a new way, but the rituals no longer serve to bring people closer to earth or to serve as a threshold. Instead, they mainly serve to cement that person within the confines of his/her religion. Compare a ritual "hunt for the great snake" where a boy turns to a man with the baptism of an infant.

But such theological debates are not the purpose of this thread, though I do appreciate them greatly. Also, Zeus was a notorious adulterer - he fathered half the pantheon and Greek heroes, nymphs and very pretty girls. If that's not an excuse for men of power to shag anything that moves, I don't know what is. "Look, Zeus did it. I can't presume I'm better than the Lord of Olympus."