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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    So God already existed before the beginning of time?
    For how long?



    Yes, the cold death, but what is outside the universe? Beyond the border.
    There is no border, it's a loop.

    Yes, the universe is expanding, but not out into anything.

    Imagine that you blow a balloon up, that is basically what has happened since big bang. The whole "being" of the universe is on the surface/fabric of the balloon.

    WE are on the surface / fabric of this balloon, thus our furthest point is the place of origin.

    GAH!!

    I neither have the English nor brain to explain or grasp all this. I do however do my best to try to explain it to people as stupid as I from the very limited knowledge that I have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    Imagine that you blow a balloon up, that is basically what has happened since big bang. The whole "being" of the universe is on the surface/fabric of the balloon.
    And just like a balloon one day the entire Universe goes "poof" in one Big Rip. Very sad, mostly because it makes human life and existence in general utterly absurd and pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rvg View Post
    And just like a balloon one day the entire Universe goes "poof" in one Big Rip. Very sad, mostly because it makes human life and existence in general utterly absurd and pointless.
    The big rip is one theory...

    Another theory is a universal strive for complexion. The ultimate complexion would be "god".

    Couple that with dark matter and a universe that moves out, to move back in, in a more complex state than it was before... And you get close to understanding my "religious" beliefs.

    Here's a possible eye opener for the people of a false religion:

    An atomic scientist is actually atoms trying to understand themselves.

    How's that for a joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    An atomic scientist is actually atoms trying to understand themselves. How's that for a joke
    Reminds me of St Lazarus.
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    Two points to consider

    1) heat death for the natural universe may occur but it might not wipe out life. It may be possible to harvest energy in other ways

    2) multiverse and traveling between them. Sure this overgrown marble is dying but we might be able to skip/create other 'verses.
    Our genes maybe in the basement but it does not stop us chosing our point of view from the top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio View Post
    Two points to consider

    1) heat death for the natural universe may occur but it might not wipe out life. It may be possible to harvest energy in other ways

    2) multiverse and traveling between them. Sure this overgrown marble is dying but we might be able to skip/create other 'verses.
    Terry Pratchett wrote about the long-stockings of time.

    Basically, every decision ever taken is like dropping a marble down a pair of long-stockings. You don't know which leg the marble is going to come out off, but it doesn't matter as the universe simultaneously is split in two, hence the multiverse.

    I don't mean to ridicule you, Pape, it's just the best description of a multiverse I have heard except for the descriptions I don't understand.

    So, in one multiverse I am right now having a threesome with Jessica Alba and Alizée in their prime...

    However, in this multiverse I am gonna take my White Wolf up to a night run up a mountain, to howl at the full moon - then off to bed... I am more than content :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    There is no border, it's a loop.

    Yes, the universe is expanding, but not out into anything.

    Imagine that you blow a balloon up, that is basically what has happened since big bang. The whole "being" of the universe is on the surface/fabric of the balloon.

    WE are on the surface / fabric of this balloon, thus our furthest point is the place of origin.
    Like this?
    http://www.universetoday.com/1455/po...xpanding-into/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Yeah, only that was the same answer but better :)

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