Twitter is banned in Turkey as of last night.
I can not give any sources since I am at work and all news websites are blocked.
Hello, 3rd world.
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Twitter is banned in Turkey as of last night.
I can not give any sources since I am at work and all news websites are blocked.
Hello, 3rd world.
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What's Erdogan's support nowadays?
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Abdullah Gul has even gone on record opposing this move. Is this the begining of the end for Erdogan?
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Eh, I got the impression that the support for Erdogan stems mostly from the rural population as well as the urban disenfranchised. LEN can fill you in on more about that I think.What's Erdogan's support nowadays?
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The elections are coming. I wonder if Erdogan gets the boot.
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They revealed some tapped phone calls via Twitter, which discredited Erdogan. Hence the blocking of the site. Mind you, I have no idea who "they" are.
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Those guys are always so busy, when do they have time to relax and enjoy their ill-gotten gains!Originally Posted by Hax
Normally I would say blocking Twitter is not necessarily a bad thing on general principle. But petty censorship isn't really a reason to do so and might backfire.
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We heard.
If it makes you feel any better, this would probably be top of the news if it weren't for Ukraine and that Jet.
and the Jet doesn't really deserve it.
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I would express sympathy but the US cut down some pretty old oak trees back in 1924, so I have to keep my mouth shut
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Hmm, I don't quite get it?
WHY was twitter banned?
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Censoring freedom of speech. Like how it is banned in China and Iran.
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So the Turkish government went "We are gonna limit freedom of speach!!"
Even China blames it on protecting the children and stuff...
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It is called high level corruption and voter fraud.
The US just does it a little more discreetly. Like 64% voter turnout and districts reporting 110% voter participation. And no one say a word.
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Because serious complaints would involve close scrutiny across the board....and neither of the two parties would benefit.
I remember some political pundits evaluating the election of 1960 saying that Nixon should be praised for not putting the country through political turmoil even though it was obvious that, at a minimum, Cook County (Chicago) had voted the graveyards etc. for Kennedy and that a change in votes there could literally have changed the electoral results.
My dad, a bit more cynically, said Nixon hadn't protested Cook County because then the whole state would have been reviewed and they would have noted the huge Republican graveyard effort down near Cairo. Of course, in that election, my Dad had apparently voted for Kennedy in both PA and NY -- though he only went personally to the polls in NY. He learned about his other vote when he got tapped by Philadelphia for wage taxes. In disputing the claim -- my dad lived in NY at the time and NJ thereafter -- the tax supervisor in Philadelphia told my dad that he had the record of him voting in the election of November 1960 in the Cottman avenue precinct where his parents lived! My dad said he had could both prove he'd voted in NY and that he worked there exclusively at the time for the FAA and queried the tax supervisor as to whether they wanted this issue to go public. Funnily enough my dad received a quit claim from the Phila. revenue office within 3 days....
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It's been 2 days since Constitutional Court -highest level of jurisdiction- reached the verdict that banning of Twitter is an "obstruction of civil rights", the verdict's even been published in Official Journal, however the Presidency of Telecommunication (TİB - responsible for the actions on websites) is yet to do anything about it.
In other words, law is simply crippled over here. Public institutions can postpone to care about what jurisdiction decides on because it should first comply with Erdogan's plans. Every official is afraid to make a move -even though it is the right thing to do- for they would not want to attract his wrath.
No wonder why Putin was among the first to congratulate him on the elections victory.
Last edited by LeftEyeNine; 04-03-2014 at 16:00.
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Erdogan might be channeling Andrew Jackson here...
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And now it becomes illegal, re: our conversation in another thread.
It's really sad how one idiot can undermine the struggle for a modern state that started almost a 100 years ago. My condolences.
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Twitter ban lifted as of yesterday, however tech-savvy users who happened to ping Twitter and Google at the same time found out that it takes ten times as much than getting to Google. Following some DOS commands to see what the requests are going through, they've also discovered that our DNSs are being hijacked, Twitter requests visit a certain Turkish "checkpoint" and another in Frankfurt then reaches Twitter servers. It is hard not to think that records of Twitter users are being recorded that way.
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double post
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