By that definition WW1 and 2 must have turned us all into more civilized people and you should all be thankful to us for starting them and making them lead to the Cold War and more militarization. We should also be thankful to OBL for making us turn even more men into real men and decent people when we were on the verge of becoming despicable pussies. Putin was also in the military, as were many dictators, why are they not decent and civilized men?
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