How war has influenced ancient, classical and medieval societies

[Sarmatian]

If Jesus could sleep in the stables (or was it a barn? (what's the difference between the two?)), so can we.

[Kagemusha]

War is never a good thing, but i would just like to point out that there are Western democracies that still have large popular support for conscription. Like for example Switzerland and Finland that both have akin 70% support for conscription in a way of either mandatory military or civil service. In my opinion it is a great way to teach young people how to work together and in a sense diminish unnecessary extreme individualism. To me conscription as purely military means is becoming somewhat obsolete unless applied in extreme conditions like for example in Israel, where maintaining large enough professional forces would be quite impossible, but i can definitely see it having benefits, if applied in democratic society, while it of course has its downsides as well.

I have always found it interesting why there is such big dislike towards conscription in the Anglosphere part of the world. Maybe our members from such countries might be able to shed some light in the issue?

[Greyblades]

I have always found it interesting why there is such big dislike towards conscription in the Anglosphere part of the world. Maybe our members from such countries might be able to shed some light in the issue?

World War 1.

[Kagemusha]

World War 1.

Its not like only English died in World War 1. Sorry too hazy to satisfy my curiosity. Maybe UK have had professional armies for so long that the thought of conscription have become less attractive? Already because of Geographical issues UK has not have a dire need for huge armies in numerical sense in most of her conflicts. Could that be at least a partial reason for dislike?

EDIT: Apparently Pannonian already answered my question before is asked it.

[Greyblades]

To clarify my earlier post: The first world war also entailed the first major conscription effort in the Empire, and it resulted in a complete clusterfuck that killed off enire communities, there were few families that didnt lose a member to the war and noone could say why. In the aftermath the nation had to deal with thousands of ex soldiers that couldnt function in society and those that could were staunchly against ever doing it again.

In some way our nation's leaders lucked out with the nazi's the second time round, without an actual enemy that deserved fighting we'd probably have warred ourselves into complete isolationism.

[Pannonian]

I have always found it interesting why there is such big dislike towards conscription in the Anglosphere part of the world. Maybe our members from such countries might be able to shed some light in the issue?

Britain, as an island, has not had to endure war on its land (with rare exceptions). So the military has not been a fact of life as much as it's been on the continent, and while doing a necessary service, were both distant and comprised of the lower sections of society (Wellington's scum of the earth).

[Myth]

Britain, as an island, has not had to endure war on its land (with rare exceptions). So the military has not been a fact of life as much as it's been on the continent, and while doing a necessary service, were both distant and comprised of the lower sections of society (Wellington's scum of the earth).

That's cause your longbowmen are overpowered plus the AI sucks at naval invasions.

[Sarmatian]

That's cause your longbowmen are overpowered plus the AI sucks at naval invasions.

Which game are we talking about? Oh, wait, it's like that in all of them. British lobby has been the death of the strategy games industry.

[Pannonian]

That's cause your longbowmen are overpowered plus the AI sucks at naval invasions.

Just thank the gaming gods the amphibious AI wasn't programmed by Germans, or it would have sucked even worse. Maybe CA should employ American programmers to do that part of their AI, as they're pretty good at doing invasions, although their AIs tend to massively overdo the invasion forces.

[Sarmatian]

Just thank the gaming gods the amphibious AI wasn't programmed by Germans, or it would have sucked even worse. Maybe CA should employ American programmers to do that part of their AI, as they're pretty good at doing invasions, although their AIs tend to massively overdo the invasion forces.

Saxons and Normans could actually do a good job. Now, Spanish programmers doing a naval invasion AI, that's a recipe for disaster.

[HoreTore]

If Jesus could sleep in the stables (or was it a barn? (what's the difference between the two?)), so can we.

Stables are for horsies, barns are for moo-moo's.

And Giovanni Gentile approves of the OP.

[Greyblades]

That's cause your longbowmen are overpowered plus the AI sucks at naval invasions.

Our longbow's arent overpowered, the AI just have a habit of being too stupid to know that cavalry charges into stakes is a bad idea.