How war has influenced ancient, classical and medieval societies

[HoreTore]

lol.

The suicidal tag is latched onto students long before they're open about their thoughts. The very idea that you have to say suicide in order for a psychologist to understand it is just absolute rubbish. Psychologists are slightly more clever than that. I assume you just disregarded the paper I gave on methods to uncover suicidal thoughts? I'll give you a clue: it was longer than the sentence "are you planning to whack yourself?"

Added to that, the army bans you for a lot more than just suicidal thoughts; just about any record of mental illness will get you booted from service. And when you ban everyone with a history of teenage mental illness, you end up with a rather skewed population group. One where you would suspect a smaller amount of suicides.

[Kadagar_AV]

lol.

The suicidal tag is latched onto students long before they're open about their thoughts. The very idea that you have to say suicide in order for a psychologist to understand it is just absolute rubbish. Psychologists are slightly more clever than that. I assume you just disregarded the paper I gave on methods to uncover suicidal thoughts? I'll give you a clue: it was longer than the sentence "are you planning to whack yourself?"

Added to that, the army bans you for a lot more than just suicidal thoughts; just about any record of mental illness will get you booted from service. And when you ban everyone with a history of teenage mental illness, you end up with a rather skewed population group. One where you would suspect a smaller amount of suicides.

You talk about Norway now, aren't you?

And even that system - that is 10000% more legitable than the US - is still not fool proof.

Remember this is an international board.

[HoreTore]

You talk about Norway now, aren't you?

I talk of the system I know, and assume the difference isn't massive among comparable countries.

The US wont let people with a history of mental illness own a gun, and so I assume they won't let them join the army either.

[Kadagar_AV]

I talk of the system I know, and assume the difference isn't massive among comparable countries.

The US wont let people with a history of mental illness own a gun, and so I assume they won't let them join the army either.

Cool story bro.

I guess it makes sense because no one in the states commits suicide with a gun.

[HoreTore]

Cool story bro.

I guess it makes sense because no one in the states commits suicide with a gun.

Completely pointless post, as always.

[Husar]

All this talk is weird. PTSD only occurs if the army goes to war if I'm not mistaken. If the army goes to war, people will also usually die in the war. In this case, the benefits of being in the army probably do not outweigh the downsides of having war, such as the cost of lives and possible destruction of stuff on either or both sides. When we just assume the army never goes to war anyway because we have reached such peaceful times (despite some of the rhetoric in the Ukraine thread), then having an army is probably the most expensive and ludicrous way to prevent suicides in the first place. And it's no surprise that brainwashing people and pretending to give them a useful purpose in life (and new friends) can remove their suicidal thoughts.

[The Stranger]

All this talk is weird. PTSD only occurs if the army goes to war if I'm not mistaken. If the army goes to war, people will also usually die in the war. In this case, the benefits of being in the army probably do not outweigh the downsides of having war, such as the cost of lives and possible destruction of stuff on either or both sides. When we just assume the army never goes to war anyway because we have reached such peaceful times (despite some of the rhetoric in the Ukraine thread), then having an army is probably the most expensive and ludicrous way to prevent suicides in the first place. And it's no surprise that brainwashing people and pretending to give them a useful purpose in life (and new friends) can remove their suicidal thoughts.

are suicidal people also more likely to look for a dangerous situation in which their life may be at risk, and thus are more likely to get killed in the army? Or is this not something common? It wouldnt be so hard to imagine imo.