El Barto's Clueless Mafia Game #1

[Askthepizzaguy]

Unvote; Vote: ATPG for voting scumquat.

Belay that vote, Visorslash. Pizza is villaging.

Assume that for the moment, zack is village, pizza is village, you're village, and Ishmael is village. Your top suspects then?

[Askthepizzaguy]

That's a two in six random shot, but based on the vote record, I don't think we need to go random.

Reidquat and Jarema are both mafia.

[Visor]

That's a two in six random shot, but based on the vote record, I don't think we need to go random.

Reidquat and Jarema are both mafia.

I don't think Jarema is worth a lynch today. Tomorrow it will be easier to tell him.

[Visor]

In fact, if Jarema did not vote me today, I would almost certainly be after his head.

Riedquat is a fine lynch.

[Riedquat]

Riedquat is a fine lynch.

No, he is not! kumquat is a better one...

[Askthepizzaguy]

No, he is not! kumquat is a better one...

You admit to being scum, then?

[Riedquat]

You admit to being scum, then?

No and I wonder why do you think I am...

[Visor]

Bah, @Jarema, who would you lynch out of Askthepizzaguy, Reidquat, and Ishmael?

He's already voting for you, Vi.

Doesn't mean he wants to lunch me. If his vote changes it gives us crucial info. Still reidquat and aa as well I suppose.

No, he is not! kumquat is a better one...

Death by kumquat

[TFT]

So, it's nice that Pizza is in hunting wolves mode instead of defensive interactions mode. I makes me read him as villager unless his actions dictate otherwise.

Viser is also putting out a villagery vibe based on the amount of effort and reasoning. Can change based off the quality of actions like ATPG

I don't like the Reidquat and kumquat first interaction at all if players are starting serious. But I also don't know the general community of The Org so I don't know how commonplace joke votes like those are for day one.

Finally, if what you guys say about Jarema and his voting patterns is true, his vote doesn't seem like a wolf tell at the moment. I do want to hear more from him for being so cautious about his first vote.

[Visor]

Belay that vote, Visorslash. Pizza is villaging.

Assume that for the moment, zack is village, pizza is village, you're village, and Ishmael is village. Your top suspects then?

1. Double A
2. Kumquat
4. edse
5. TFT
6. Jarema
7. Bladescape

These are the remaining players.

Going by the vote analysis with the assumption made, we have little to look with so far, but it is enough.
TFT votes Bladescape - member from his forum. Is he voting him for security reasons? Or is it a throwaway?
Riedquat votes Jarema - Jarema, easy vote, unlikely to attract an OMGUS due to Jarema's tendency to vote me every D1.
Jarema votes myself - as he always does. Does he actually want me lynched is the question?
AA votes riedquat - throwaway vote, nothing to be learnt from. From my picture of AA, his day 1 is a throwaway.
Bladescape + edse have not voted.

Clearly not too much to go on. I wouldn't lynch Jarema today because he always votes me D1. AA is a fine vote, and one of bladescape + edse. If I was hazarding a guess based on those assumptions and really extrapolating things.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Bladescape is marked as away on GITP, his absence is expected and unrelated to the game.

I'll give him a pass since you cannot analyze him anyway. His fellow forum-goer TFT is voting for someone familiar, and definitely a commonplace villager D1 vote. We tend to vote the people we're closest to, because we expect to be betrayed by them, and want to get the upper hand over an old rival, rather than be blindsided by them. We don't mind losing to people we don't know from adam.

As such, both blades and TFT get a D1 pass from me.

Edse is not pulling his weight yet; however, I'd give you an obvious reason why if you asked, but don't ask. It's null. I have a feeling he might miss the round altogether, and I believe his absence is not a conscious decision on his part.

Double A is my third choice, already explained the other two.

I think one scum distances from the other scum, but if not, it's Double A and Jarema.

I can be persuaded to vote any of the three I mentioned, Scumquat, Jarema, or Double A.

And I would lynch Jarema today because he always votes you Day One is not a defense.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Visor, I believe you're villaging because enough people were voting off-wagon. I don't believe town comes to that voting configuration naturally, that literally every townie was voting for a different suspect, and there were no two-townie votes.

This is thin, but vote analysis is my bag.

I'm a villager because I care too much not to be one.

[Zack]

This is a bad argument. Zack was the must-murder last night, he was never getting lynched this game due to the lack of village PMs.

Assume that for the moment, zack is village, pizza is village, you're village, and Ishmael is village. Your top suspects then?

Last edited by Askthepizzaguy; 06-07-14 at 01:05 AM. Reason: In fact, I'm skipping analysis of Zack. It doesn't even need to be said.

Because I said I didn't get a PM? Like a scumbag's never done that before? Smells likes PIS to me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Because I said I didn't get a PM? Like a scumbag's never done that before? Smells likes PIS to me.

Maybe you have urinal cakes in your nostrils.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I like how Reidquat is totally willing to lynch Ishmael, like, someday? But not before self-owning.

That's pretty kewl. It's a really unorthodox way of hunting scums.

[Visor]

Ah, I remember bladescape posting that he was away now. Nevermind on that behalf.

And yes, I agree with that. I would not lynch Zack or TFT/bladescape today myself, mostly because the latter two are new to the forum and Zack because of the early deaths of him in other games.

I'll take you at your word for edse, I don't believe he would consciously not vote.

I am fine with lynching those three. I don't mind the jarema lynch, but I would prefer AA/Reidquat over him, as reading jarema becomes easier once you make him talk.

[Visor]

@Jarema

who would you lynch, out of ATPG, myself and Ishmael?

[Askthepizzaguy]

@Jarema

who would you lynch, out of ATPG, myself and Ishmael?

Bah, @Jarema, who would you lynch out of Askthepizzaguy, Reidquat, and Ishmael?

He's already voting for you, Vi.

[Visor]

I have trouble reading Ishmael myself - he is someone that makes me doubt what I read, but I have a few ideas on what he may/may not do as mafia. I have a few sources to draw information from.

Fire alarm, back soon.

[Ishmael]

I have trouble reading Ishmael myself - he is someone that makes me doubt what I read, but I have a few ideas on what he may/may not do as mafia. I have a few sources to draw information from.

Fire alarm, back soon.

You always nail me as mafia, and for the right reasons too. It's just fortunate the town doesn't listen to you most of the time when you do. You also often call me as mafia when I'm townie, but that's a different matter.

As for serious post analysis, I'd give Visorslash a tentative pass, and will be keeping a closer eye on TFT. I won't be changing my vote though, as I'd feel bad lynching one of the newcomers without more than a gut feeling on D1. No opinions yet on anybody else, really.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You always nail me as mafia, and for the right reasons too. It's just fortunate the town doesn't listen to you most of the time when you do. You also often call me as mafia when I'm townie, but that's a different matter.

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As for serious post analysis, I'd give Visorslash a tentative pass, and will be keeping a closer eye on TFT

Why?

[Visor]

So, it's nice that Pizza is in hunting wolves mode instead of defensive interactions mode. I makes me read him as villager unless his actions dictate otherwise.

Viser is also putting out a villagery vibe based on the amount of effort and reasoning. Can change based off the quality of actions like ATPG

I don't like the Reidquat and kumquat first interaction at all if players are starting serious. But I also don't know the general community of The Org so I don't know how commonplace joke votes like those are for day one.

Finally, if what you guys say about Jarema and his voting patterns is true, his vote doesn't seem like a wolf tell at the moment. I do want to hear more from him for being so cautious about his first vote.

Riedquat - kumquat is sorta a forum joke between el barto and riedquat - scumquat is my name for him. What about Ishamel or AA's vote?

You always nail me as mafia, and for the right reasons too. It's just fortunate the town doesn't listen to you most of the time when you do. You also often call me as mafia when I'm townie, but that's a different matter.

As for serious post analysis, I'd give Visorslash a tentative pass, and will be keeping a closer eye on TFT. I won't be changing my vote though, as I'd feel bad lynching one of the newcomers without more than a gut feeling on D1. No opinions yet on anybody else, really.

Everyone gets it wrong sometimes.

That said, I voted you specifically because I want to read your interactions to me, and you giving me a pass, no matter how tentative is generally not how I find Ishmael to work, at least as town. I remember you voting me more then most people and normally having some sort of voting interaction early.

Thoughts on Pizza so far?