The red Kipper flies at midnight!*

[Beskar]

As the polar opposites of EU integration and UKIP continue saying their piece, my respect for the underrated John Major grows.

I agree their position is a middle-ground of self-interest which makes 'sense' and has logic behind it. I might not agree with it personally, but it is easier to understand than the naivety in some of the other positions.

I once called it the 'Furunculus Position', many years ago. Where you couldn't argue or fault the logic behind their position, you could only argue the ideology.

Always a good position to debate against. It really tests your own arguments to put forward convincing cases.