EU election...

[Husar]

Very funny.

Seriously though the EAW is terrible. Remember this?

http://www.fairtrials.org/cases/andrew-symeou/

I know when my dad lived in Greece the locals warned us to stay well away from the police. Even more corrupt than their fellow countrymen and that's saying summat.

No, but that's a good argument for more political integration to root out the corruption. It always amazes me that the EU or UN or so blame Germany for not having proper laws against corruption as apparently all other countries have, yet our corruption is apparently a lot lower than the corruption in all these other countries. I suppose having a law is not the same as following it.

If you need to ask....

This is one of the myriad reasons why the UK (and Ireland) are unsuited to be members of the EU of A. In the common law system you are innocent until found guilty in a court of law. In the code civil, it's the other way around. We actually think this is intrinsically evil.

Oh, but it's so wonderful that I asked and even more wonderful that and how you answered. I don't even know where to start poking all the fun. Do I start with the common law exceptionalism or that I heard the same thing being said about the USA? Well, you might know it's not true about the USA and let me tell you, it's not true about France either. Now I did not know that but since it surprised me when you said it and you seem so sure of what you say (which you really shouldn't be), I looked it up: http://www.overseas-exile.com/2013/0...us-versus.html

Note that I pointed out that they live in the US. That's important, because the outcome would have been different here in France. Under French law:
Toute personne suspectée ou poursuivie est présumée innocente tant que sa culpabilité n'a pas été établie. Les atteintes à sa présomption d'innocence sont prévenues, réparées et réprimées dans les conditions prévues par la loi.
That translates as:
Any suspected or accused person is presumed innocent until he is found guilty. Damage to the presumption of innocence is prevented, remedied and punished as provided by law.
"Damage to the presumption of innocence"? It means, amongst other things, French police departments don't do perp walks (a disgusting US police practice), your mugshot is not published and even in serious crimes, the French don't name suspects until a conviction, barring issues where the names have been leaked. In court cases, the police lead the accused to the courtroom via discreet entrances to prevent photographs and damage to the presumption of innocence. If you violate this presumption of innocence, it will quickly be your turn to stand in front of a judge, but they'll protect your privacy too.

http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=82288

And the Déclaration clearly states, in its ninth article that (quoting Wikipedia) :

"As all persons are held innocent until they shall have been declared guilty, if arrest shall be deemed indispensable, all harshness not essential to the securing of the prisoner's person shall be severely repressed by law."

In fact, France goes farther than the United States in protectiong the presumption of innocence. While in America, that principle is only applicable in courts, in France, since june 15th 2000, that presumption extends beyond the court. One exemple: many people were outraged here because Dominique Strauss-Kahn was the victim of a "perp walk". That's because, in his own country, he would not have been subjected to that practice. People who are arrested in a criminal case have their faces masked, either by clothes, or by having their faces blurred on TV or in pics. Their names are not given until trial day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presump...nce#Common_law

The maxim or its equivalent has been adopted by many civil law systems, including Brazil,[7] France,[8] Italy,[9][10] Philippines,[11] Poland,[12] Romania[13] and Spain.[14]

So, there you have the advantages of your common law over the filthy barbaric French.

Aye keep trying her until you find her guilty. A bit like those EU referendums, keep voting until you get the right result. Again we regard this as intrinsically evil.

It was about evidence which was clearly there but not allowed to be used in the case where she was regarded innocent. Two courts found the evidence perfectly clear and it made her look incredibly guilty. If you don't like repeated trials, they could have stuck with the first verdict instead of "keep trying her until she is found innocent", that's not an argument.

I notice you didn't address this...

You were proudly parading around about having voted UKIP, so how does it feel then? I already said I didn't vote. Sorry, but the joke's on you...
Cameron singlehandedly preventing Juncker by threatening to leave also sounds very democratic and like a normal process. IMO they should have chosen Juncker and let Cameron and the UK leave. But for evil dictators our leaders lack the spine to do that apparently.

It never works out well when our 'rulers' ignore the wishes of the people. In the UK we'll probably have petitions and tea and cucumber sandwiches at No 10. In other parts of Europe......well I know for a fact that most of the Greeks on Corfu have guns. One guy I met told me he'd taken his off a dead Italian,who's throat he'd just cut.

He looked a little like my grandad. I nicer bloke you'd be hard pressed to meet.

I'm not entirely sure what you are trying to say with this? Are you talking about separatist terrorist insurgencies like in Ukraine?