ISIS on the offensive in Iraq

**rory_20_uk** · 09-02-2014, 10:30

Originally Posted by Husar

Meanwhile the german government has decided that a good "recycling" solution for old weapon stockpiles would be to just gift the old stuff to the Kurds.

As such the Kurdish fighters will receive G3 and G36 rifles, MG3 machineguns and some old Panzerfaust launchers and Milan ATGMs.
Additionally they will get the P1 pistols, 10k of which were already given to Afghani policemen. And of course a few million rounds of ammunition for the rifles and ammunition for the rocket/missile launchers.

Now you may say the G36 is a relatively new rifle, but some production models were found to melt if fired a bit too often as they were made using inferior plastic. "But the good old P1 pistol that serves the Afghani police will save them!" you say, well, maybe, but it was known to be horribly inaccurate and is by now completely phased out of army service.

The G3 rifles may actually be useful though, word is they were used by the army in Afghanistan again because of their superior firepower and longer range/accuracy (let's hope Vuk won't read this).
The Milan and Panzerfaust are probably good enough to crack the few tanks and armored cars that ISIS use.

I heard the USA/Iraqi army provided a lot of the gear ISIS uses right now for free, so what are other countries giving to increase the fun? Didn't the UK want to send some packages to the Kurds as well? Will they also send old cold war stuff for the vintage fun?

And what are the further implications? IF the Kurdish warriors win this for everyone else, will it help establish a free Kurdistan or will we then give more guns to the Iraqi army to beat down the Kurds?

I would imagine that right about now weapons that have problems is better than fighing with strong words.

And it does seem to be sensible to use older stockpiles to help one's puppets in killing one's enemies (including traitors who have left to fight for Her Majesty's enemies). Countries should give small tranches at a time to as far as possible ensure that weaponry is used rather than stockpiled (as if bad persons are struggling to get hold of guns...)

**Hooahguy** · 09-02-2014, 18:34

Second US journalist murdered by IS.

**HopAlongBunny** · 09-02-2014, 20:26

I thought that SA article was a little too sunny.
It seems it would require participants on all sides as dedicated to peace, as they are presently dedicated to killing each other.
Long time before we get to that stage :(

**Pannonian** · 09-02-2014, 20:30

Originally Posted by rory_20_uk

I would imagine that right about now weapons that have problems is better than fighing with strong words.

Do the French have any Chauchats left?

**Seamus Fermanagh** · 09-02-2014, 20:43

Originally Posted by Pannonian

Do the French have any Chauchats left?

The wiki piece suggests that -- aside from museum collections etc. -- the French were VERY thorough in getting rid of that "piéce d' excrément."

**Pannonian** · 09-02-2014, 22:21

Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

The wiki piece suggests that -- aside from museum collections etc. -- the French were VERY thorough in getting rid of that "piéce d' excrément."

I'd imagine a Chauchat could come in handy. If you get in close enough, you could swing the Chauchat and club the enemy to death with a 20lb lump of metal. Also, if you have a rifle grenade attachment, you could toss a grenade up and use the Chauchat as a cricket bat to propel the grenade a fair distance. In fact, you wouldn't even need the rifle grenade attachment to use the Chauchat for that purpose, which just proves how inherently versatile it is.