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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    I'm not sure whether they will keep millions alive given how they kill people every day for the smallest of reasons. I'm also not sure whether this comparison is fair towards North Korea, so far they don't seem to go out of their way to make people suffer and they haven't revealed expansion plans for the entire planet either.
    If Islamic State manages to survive the civil war and establish itself as a fully fledged nation than it will resemble North Korea in a lot of ways. Both IS and North Korea are ruled by ideologically based regimes which allow very little human rights and punish dissent with death.

    IS is interested in governance as well as jihad. It's establishing courts and civil institutions, coining money, and it even gives welfare to the poor. According to its propaganda housing and healthcare in the caliphate are free. If you are Sunni and you follow their laws ISIS will not kill you.

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    It's entirely fair for us to let anything happen. It's not us actively making these things happen, so why should we be held accountable for things that other people do? If we do go out of our way to make the world a better place, then we should be praised for it, but we shouldn't be expected to do it. And if those people are hating us for doing that, then I see no point in doing so, and they can have their own dump of a place to rule. No skin off my nose if they decide to have their own hellhole on earth, as long as they don't interfere with my life.

    And after our wonderful efforts to topple the brutal dictator in Libya, that place is now awash with Islamists chopping the heads of Christians. I wish Saddam and Qaddafi were still in power to keep these nutters down, and thank goodness Assad managed to hang on despite the best efforts of our wonderful Liberal Democratic evangelists.
    I'm sorry it was late and that post wasn't written very well. I didn't mean to suggest we need to intervene in Iraq and Syria to stop ISIS, I just strongly disagree with the notion that most Iraqis and Syrians want or deserve to live under ISIS rule, which your post seemed to imply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuuvi View Post
    If Islamic State manages to survive the civil war and establish itself as a fully fledged nation than it will resemble North Korea in a lot of ways. Both IS and North Korea are ruled by ideologically based regimes which allow very little human rights and punish dissent with death.

    IS is interested in governance as well as jihad. It's establishing courts and civil institutions, coining money, and it even gives welfare to the poor. According to its propaganda housing and healthcare in the caliphate are free. If you are Sunni and you follow their laws ISIS will not kill you.
    That's a joke, right? North Korea is a country that was established where there was already a country and it wants to stay that way. The caliphate was established where no comparable country was before and it plans to integrate the entire world into the "country". North Korea does not want to come here and kill me for not being Sunni, the caliphate does. The difference is almost an entire planet. That ISIS is interested in government makes it as much similar to North Korea as it makes it similar to Belgium. The major difference is in who they want to subdue/kill. Belgium comes out ahead in that comparison by the way.


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    If Islamic State manages to survive the civil war and establish itself as a fully fledged nation than it will resemble North Korea in a lot of ways. Both IS and North Korea are ruled by ideologically based regimes which allow very little human rights and punish dissent with death.
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