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    Default Re: ISIS on the offensive in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Your argument was in favour of those groups as "moderate" and "democratic", under (supposedly) modern, broader meaning of the word.
    No, I did not argue that they were 'moderate' - I argued that we need to know what they mean by 'sharia' before can properly judge whether or not they are 'moderate' - after a definition of 'moderate' has been agreed upon, obviously:

    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    Without knowing whether or not they intend to stone people to death and cut off people's hands, insisting that they are not 'moderate' seems premature.
    I dispute the idea that modern usage of 'democracy' implies things like respect for 'human rights' (just look to the dictionaries), and I've also argued why such a definition is a really bad idea - regardless.

    But the original point was not whether or not we could call what they wanted democracy (which is ultimately semantics), but that it offers a way for Syrians to change the way Syria is ruled (including the abolition of sharia). That's all - anything else is a straw man.

    Go back, rethink your strategy. Yes, your e-penis will shrink a little, but at least you won't look like a fool.
    If you are as right as you seem to think you are, you don't need to rely on such hostility in order to win the argument. Think about it.
    Last edited by Viking; 10-20-2015 at 15:59.
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