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    Ever hear anyone complain about the Chinese?
    Uh..... Yes?
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    And when Westerners went to Japan to start with many were killed out of hand; China viewed them as supplicants to the Imperial throne. Boxter rebellion, anyone?
    The first Europeans to Africa called the locals monkeys, and the locals called the Europeans ghosts.
    The first few colonies in the Americas one cause for failure was being slaughtered by the locals.

    I can think of few cultures who on first meeting were really nice and kind to each other and went forward with mutual respect.

    But often when two cultures merge then the peoples do get on

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Uh..... Yes?
    That's a while ago, and there was such thing as mass-immigration of north-africans or central-africans. It's just a fact that these groups are overpresented in, well everything. Muslims are just trouble. Not only do they have genetic-defects because of centuries of inbreeding they are also more prone to mental-deseases. Have a significantly lower IQ. Are overpresented in crime. Fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    That's a while ago
    Yes, "today" is indeed a long time ago.

    Just out of curiosity(and ignoring the fact that you're using debunked junk science from a eugenics proponent), just what is a significantly lower IQ? Do you know how big the gap needs to be to be able to tell any difference between two individuals?

    By the way: Christian immigrants are also highly over-represented in crime. Buddhists too. Probably more.
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    Yes, "today" is indeed a long time ago.

    Just out of curiosity(and ignoring the fact that you're using debunked junk science from a eugenics proponent), just what is a significantly lower IQ? Do you know how big the gap needs to be to be able to tell any difference between two individuals?

    By the way: Christian immigrants are also highly over-represented in crime. Buddhists too. Probably more.
    You can check the IQ world-map for your question. And it shows. Almost none make it to higher education, and often cope on the lowest we have to offer. The average Dutchman has an IQ of 105. The average north-african regardless of being here for three generations is hopelessly behind, A LOT of north-africans are 'zwakbegaafd' as it's called here, (weakly gifted should translate well enough), but barely able sums it up fine. The effects of inbreeding is well known. A lower IQ isn't the only consequence, so are health-problems, and being more prone to mental disorders. Girls do better though, you will see plemty muslim girls at universities. I don't know why that is, only the males fail at just about everything.
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    My dad is an Algerian with a double PhD in microbiology and virology.

    But I'll make sure to tell him that he's retarded the next time I see him, thanks to his being "north-African".
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    My dad is an Algerian with a double PhD in microbiology and virology.

    But I'll make sure to tell him that he's retarded the next time I see him, thanks to his being "north-African".
    Of course there are north-africans who do well, but not a lot. Not the avarage one, way behind. Do you deny that? Do you deny that there is an increased risk of physical and mental illness because of centuries of 'keeping it in the family'?

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    yeah, don't you think it's more likely there's an increased risk of mental illness because of +/- 200 years of colonialism which was often paired with the systematic castration of the countries' intellectual elite, finally followed by bloody wars of independence?

    but nevermind guys, Fragony has got it all figured out. Let's just burn all scientific papers arguing for anything else and pelt them at incoming immigrants.
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    You can check the IQ world-map for your question.
    That ma is debunked junk science made by a eugenics fan who wants to sterilize dumb people. Remember the importance of checking your sources.

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    And it shows.
    I asked you a specific question, and I want a specific answer:

    How big does the IQ difference between two people have to be before you can tell there's a difference? IQ is measured in simple numbers, so you should have next to no problems giving an exact number. Or at least a possible range.
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    How big does the IQ difference between two people have to be before you can tell there's a difference? IQ is measured in simple numbers, so you should have next to no problems giving an exact number. Or at least a possible range.
    IQ tests only show how good you are at that specific test - to be obtuse if I was given an IQ test in Norwegian I'd get almost all of it wrong as I'd not understand the instructions which is a language barrier not my innate cognition.

    I'd estimate 10-15 points.

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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    IQ tests only show how good you are at that specific test - to be obtuse if I was given an IQ test in Norwegian I'd get almost all of it wrong as I'd not understand the instructions which is a language barrier not my innate cognition.
    Indeed, but I'm ignoring that* part so I can hear Frags answer as to how big the IQ difference has to be in order to be noticeable.

    *along with the rest of the "what does IQ even mean?"-debate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    That's a while ago, and there was such thing as mass-immigration of north-africans or central-africans. It's just a fact that these groups are overpresented in, well everything. Muslims are just trouble. Not only do they have genetic-defects because of centuries of inbreeding they are also more prone to mental-deseases. Have a significantly lower IQ. Are overpresented in crime. Fact.
    Inbred Muslims? Weren't they significantly more widespread than Europeans for centuries? A contiguous collection of empires from the Indies in the east to Morocco in the west, plus Iberia where they'd been invited over by indigenous Christians.

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