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[Kadagar_AV]

Again:

lrn2read

I have claimed nothing of the sort. I am simply awaiting your explanation of why it requires more intelligence to stockpile food for a hard winter than it does to stockpile food for a hard drought, or why it requires more intelligence to withstand cold than it does to withstand blistering heat and a lack of water.



.....And this is all ignoring the fact that we don't know what intelligence is or what causes it. Assuming education has an impact, we can offer the following explanation: Africa has low access to education - a very easy explanation to any supposed(they are not proven) discrepancy in IQ would be that access to education determines IQ.

Easy-peasy. But not the answer the white power crowd wants, so I assume this will be ignored in the following post.

And I am awaiting your explanation why it would take the exact same intelligence to live in Africa as it would in the Western North.

We don't have the same animals, so SOME kind of adaptions have to have been made by us humans. If we could evolve identically the wildlife would mimic it, no? Just the simple fact that Northmen have to actually wear clothes has an impact.

The climates are NOTHING in the same. it's not the same game or plants, and it's not the same weather.

Also, it's not the same people and not the same culture, and that plays a HUGE part.


Again: Your basic premises is that a species would have evolved identically under very diffrerent conditions.

My basic premise is that species evolves differently under different conditions.

You have to be a VERY good socialist to not at some level of intellectuality start question your own basic premise.



Aaaaaaaaaaaaand then you go on with "we don't know what intelligence is"...

Again, socialists always lean back on some damn complexity issue instead of applying Ockham's Razor.

Ockham's Razor = Black people do less well on IQ tests and have shown to be less easy to incorporate in higher learning (even though efforts have been made to include them).

Ockham's razor then = Black people is less intelligent from the intelligence standard set by the modern society (albeit they may be more proficient at surviving lion attacks).

How many black Chess masters do we have? How many black Go masters? How many black experimental physicists? To say that this is all down to mere culture or repression is a joke, specially since we even have a black president.

Blacks today have societys complete permission and help to reach our intellects far boundaries... It's just that they seem to lack the mental tools to get there, if we look at pure results.

[Husar]

Ockham's Razor = Black people do less well on IQ tests and have shown to be less easy to incorporate in higher learning (even though efforts have been made to include them).

Ockham's razor then = Black people is less intelligent from the intelligence standard set by the modern society (albeit they may be more proficient at surviving lion attacks).

Ockham's razor: Kadagar uses an equals sign in the middle of a sentence where it makes little sense -> Kadagar scores very low on the intelligence standard I just set (but he may be good at skiing).

Oh c'mon Husar, you are better than this. This was just absurd.

Ockham's razor: Kadagar finds the results of scientific studies absurd -> Kadagar is not very educated according to western standards of education (but he may be good at skiing).

[Kadagar_AV]

Ockham's razor: Kadagar uses an equals sign in the middle of a sentence where it makes little sense -> Kadagar scores very low on the intelligence standard I just set (but he may be good at skiing).

Dude...

Try to exchange the "equals sign" to the actual word "equals" and see if it doesn't make some kind of sense.

So far it looks like I beat you both at skiing and thinking.

Shame on you Husar, you are better than this.

You really are

[Strike For The South]

Every time some one says intelligence is race based, their race is always on top

Funny how that works.

[Kadagar_AV]

Every time some one says intelligence is race based, their race is always on top

Funny how that works.

I don't see many Jews or East Asians argumenting here?

You REALLY haven't read up on the issue, have you?

[Strike For The South]

I don't see many Jews or East Asians argumenting here?

You REALLY haven't read up on the issue, have you?

Quite frankly, I'd rather put a bullet in my head than sift through whatever half an abstract one Neo-Nazi website copy+pastes as fact.

The fact that "Africans" still passes a correct moniker for everyone south of Sahara should be proof enough of these myopic ideas. I still want to see the returns on what sort of long term societal benefit a ski instructor brings to the mighty white race, but I'm not holding my breath.

In any event, I eagerly await the day where Europeans begin hanging their minorities so we can come in and scoop up the good stuff....again. NASA part II!

[Kadagar_AV]

Quite frankly, I'd rather put a bullet in my head than sift through whatever half an abstract one Neo-Nazi website copy+pastes as fact.

The fact that "Africans" still passes a correct moniker for everyone south of Sahara should be proof enough of these myopic ideas. I still want to see the returns on what sort of long term societal benefit a ski instructor brings to the mighty white race, but I'm not holding my breath.

In any event, I eagerly await the day where Europeans begin hanging their minorities so we can come in and scoop up the good stuff....again. NASA part II!

Stop. Posting. Slobbering. Drunk.

[Husar]

Try to exchange the "equals sign" to the actual word "equals" and see if it doesn't make some kind of sense.

https://www.google.de/search?q=equal...=1920&bih=1092

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equals_sign

You gotta discuss that with google and Wikipedia I guess.

As for what actually equals Ockham's razor:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

It states that among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected. Other, more complicated solutions may ultimately prove correct, but—in the absence of certainty—the fewer assumptions that are made, the better.

Now your posts contained just the words "Ockham's razor", followed by an equals sign (and the word "then" in one case) and then something you tried to pass off as fact, none of that makes sense. You do not present various hypotheses to choose from, you say nothing about what we already know and how many assumptions have to be made and neither do you explain why Ockham's razor should be applied here instead of another principle. Even that sentence from wiki says that Ockham's razor does not always result in a true hypothesis. But you ignore all that and put some hypothesis you personally like behind an equals sign as though that somehow made it true.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

It boils down to metrology folks. We have no "intelligence" tool that can directly compare individuals or groups of individuals. Without a direct comparative tool, all there can be is opinions and beliefs.

Prima facia, Kadagar's assertion that different climatological, experiential, and cultural regimens could result in significant phenotypic variation within the species is not without merit. On the other hand, we have no tool with which to determine if any measurable difference exists. Even if such a difference does exist, we do not have enough reliable data to determine its statistical significance.

Kadagar: None of the IQ tests you refer to can be seen as "culture neutral." They have yet to write an IQ measurement tool that is -- for that matter arguments continue as to what aspects of intelligence need to be measured to capture "intelligence" in a single definition. Chess and Go masters, in addition to both being exposed to cultural bias assertions )(and corruption; the chess organization makes FIFA look totally above board), are at one remove from "intelligence." At best, we can show a strong correlation between master's status in chess and classic western "book learning" definitions of intelligence.

We don't have the "meter stick" we need to prove or disprove your argument.

Sadly, I suspect we will have #D-printed complex organs in general usage long before such a measure for intelligence exists.

[Montmorency]

If we take intelligence to be behavioral, then item bias becomes trivial as the focus is on outcome, regardless of whether and to what extent results come as a consequence of innate or acquired abilities.

The problem then is not one of cultural bias, but whether IQ (and other) tests can provide a representative sampling of "intellectual functioning" (given some veridical definition of "intelligence") for any individual at all.

[Fragony]

Turkey IS https://mobile.twitter.com/KekHamo/s...69451959525376

Kurds go the hell. Wait they are already there

[Kadagar_AV]

Ockham's razor: Kadagar uses an equals sign in the middle of a sentence where it makes little sense -> Kadagar scores very low on the intelligence standard I just set (but he may be good at skiing).



Ockham's razor: Kadagar finds the results of scientific studies absurd -> Kadagar is not very educated according to western standards of education (but he may be good at skiing).

Well, read what I wrote again - and see if you can't make sense of it, if you just stop being linguistically overly anal about it.

Side question: When you go to the beach, do you bring meteorological charts around if someone wants to small talk about the weather?

Silly Germans

[Husar]

Well, read what I wrote again - and see if you can't make sense of it, if you just stop being linguistically overly anal about it.

Side question: When you go to the beach, do you bring meteorological charts around if someone wants to small talk about the weather?

Silly Germans

So you still think your wrong use of Ockham's razor is a good excuse not to use your brain and go with the simplest interpretation as long as it suits your prejudices?

As for the "question mark debate", I'm not sure whether you got my point there, I got yours quite a while ago. It doesn't matter how one reads your equals sign, it makes no sense there anyway and has nothing to do with the application of Ockham's razor.

[Kadagar_AV]

So you still think your wrong use of Ockham's razor is a good excuse not to use your brain and go with the simplest interpretation as long as it suits your prejudices?

As for the "question mark debate", I'm not sure whether you got my point there, I got yours quite a while ago. It doesn't matter how one reads your equals sign, it makes no sense there anyway and has nothing to do with the application of Ockham's razor.

I think reading it in the context it was written, it made perfect sense.

Blacks underperform in their own and in shared societys, compared internationally.

You can apply a load of intellectual arguments as to why, with ever deeper and deeper explanations...

Ooooor you can just assume black people are sub par-performers when it comes to modern society building (extremely broadly and generally speaking of course).

See, it was in this context Ockham's razor came in, hope I made myself more clear now

[rory_20_uk]

Funny thing is, we are all comfortable with the fact blacks are much better athletes than all other ethnicities.

Yet of course all are absolutely equal when it comes to intellectual achievement.

[Kadagar_AV]

Funny thing is, we are all comfortable with the fact blacks are much better athletes than all other ethnicities.

Yet of course all are absolutely equal when it comes to intellectual achievement.

It's only racism if people care...

Regardless, I honestly think we all know East Asians are smarter than us all other ethnicities anyway.

I have come to terms with East Asians beating me at Go while Black men outrun me. White people still got the hottest babes

[Sarmatian]

Funny thing is, we are all comfortable with the fact blacks are much better athletes than all other ethnicities.

Yet of course all are absolutely equal when it comes to intellectual achievement.

Who said they are much better athletes?

[Husar]

I think reading it in the context it was written, it made perfect sense.

Blacks underperform in their own and in shared societys, compared internationally.

You can apply a load of intellectual arguments as to why, with ever deeper and deeper explanations...

Ooooor you can just assume black people are sub par-performers when it comes to modern society building (extremely broadly and generally speaking of course).

See, it was in this context Ockham's razor came in, hope I made myself more clear now

The way you use Ockham's razor I could also say that cars move forward by magic because any other explanation is obviously way too complicated in our environment and therefore obviously wrong.
You could of course look deeper and deeper into the car but why bother if Ockham's razor already proves my most simplistic explanation true?

[Kadagar_AV]

The way you use Ockham's razor I could also say that cars move forward by magic because any other explanation is obviously way too complicated in our environment and therefore obviously wrong.
You could of course look deeper and deeper into the car but why bother if Ockham's razor already proves my most simplistic explanation true?

Oh c'mon Husar, you can make a better argument than that I am sure... That was just sad