Honours?????

[HoreTore]

You're all acting like this isn't n irrelevant relic of a distant age we do not want to return to.

Dictators like their medals.

[Papewaio]

You're all acting like this isn't n irrelevant relic of a distant age we do not want to return to.

Dictators like their medals.

Noble prizes are pretty good. They all go to the common man who has contributed to society.

Except for the one that awards millions to terrorists and politicians on promises. Which nation awards that one again?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Noble prizes are pretty good. They all go to the common man who has contributed to society.

Except for the one that awards millions to terrorists and politicians on promises. Which nation awards that one again?

That would be the TRUE custodians of Nobel's legacy, the Norwegians. All-in-all, they award the Peace Prize (which he favored above the others) more or less exactly as Nobel envisaged it being awarded -- and good intentions were as or more important to the award criteria than practicable results.

The rest of the awards generally provide middle-aged academics with a pat on the back for good work done when they were young, arrogant, and single.

[HoreTore]

That would be the TRUE custodians of Nobel's legacy, the Norwegians. All-in-all, they award the Peace Prize (which he favored above the others) more or less exactly as Nobel envisaged it being awarded -- and good intentions were as or more important to the award criteria than practicable results.

I applaud your excellent understanding of Nobels intentions! A rare trait these days.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

I applaud your excellent understanding of Nobels intentions! A rare trait these days.

You schooled me on it years ago and subsequent readings about Nobel make it clear that your interpretation of things was spot on target.


I think Nobel was a good bit hypocritical given his personal success story (though perhaps remorseful might be equally true) and that his peace prize is far too much of a "Let's all sing Kumbaya" process to actually have any value, but I do acknowledge it's stated purpose and parameters. It's not like they hide anything.

[Kadagar_AV]

The norwegian Nobel peace prize is a international joke...

Kissinger?
Arafat?
Obama?
Gore?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

The norwegian Nobel peace prize is a international joke...

Kissinger?
Arafat?
Obama?
Gore?

Of COURSE it is a joke. Precisely BECAUSE it adheres to and reflect the guidelines Nobel laid out for it. As a political thinker, he was a great chemist.

[HoreTore]

You schooled me on it years ago and subsequent readings about Nobel make it clear that your interpretation of things was spot on target.


I think Nobel was a good bit hypocritical given his personal success story (though perhaps remorseful might be equally true) and that his peace prize is far too much of a "Let's all sing Kumbaya" process to actually have any value, but I do acknowledge it's stated purpose and parameters. It's not like they hide anything.

Hypocritical isn't a word fitting Nobel. Remorseful definitely is. He had a change of mind in his later years, similar to a 60-year old born again christian. The anti-war movement was surprisingly radical in the late 19th century, and he was convinced of their arguments. "Unilateral disarmament" was his ideal for peace, and it is this the peace prize was set up to create(not just reward). In the last decades, there have been some weird prizes, and the peace prize has branched out a little from that ideal. However, the weird prizes, in regards to Nobel, are not the usualy suspects. The EU, Kissinger, Arafat/Perez and such definitely deserved the prize. Ebadi and Karman? Probably not.

[Papewaio]

That would be the TRUE custodians of Nobel's legacy, the Norwegians. All-in-all, they award the Peace Prize (which he favored above the others) more or less exactly as Nobel envisaged it being awarded -- and good intentions were as or more important to the award criteria than practicable results.

The rest of the awards generally provide middle-aged academics with a pat on the back for good work done when they were young, arrogant, and single.

Reasonable and accurate.

But you still spoilt my trolling! :)