Restless crowns: forging empires [Late era -Skip a few]

[sonnet]

Please place a minimum number of units, at least 25% of an army, meaning 5 units. The type/quality doesn't matter. You are saying that
there is a 1fort limit per region, but you should see how small some regions are, especially in western europe. If this game actually changed
fort type based on number of units ex. 1 unit is just barricade, 5 units wooden fort, 10 units large wood fort, 15+ stone fort/castle, that would be nice, but it doesn't.

@Vipman @Lord Luka (Lord Luka will vote for Jiub too being his subber) @Gaius Octavius Caesar @Tonno @Dr Mac @Emproment @ebs @Makrell @Core-i7-inside
would you like to set a minimum of units to be kept in forts? (If yes please state how many, we'll make the average).
We need 5 yes (+ Auran) to have a majority.

This does feel like an exploit, so I hope we can enforce a min-unit rule to make the forts seem like more than just dams or piles of wood.

It's not an exploit. We all do and we always did that in every HS with medieval II mods or vanilla. It's more a choice.
In Westeros HS, players set the minimum units like you said. But that's also because they allow 3-4 forts per region, as also they have no way to counter-act forts (there are no spies and no siege weapons in Westeros HS).

[Tonno]

Against it.

[Core-i7-inside]

Sine the number of forts and spies are very limited. I disagree with Auran.

[Vipman]

Against.

And I'd also like to understand what's this fort bug accused by Jiub, I can't figure what exactly was done.

@sonnet how's the status of the rules you proposed, I think the first about ignoring rules to fix an issue created by breaking a rule to continue the game was interesting, and I forgot what the second was.

The Hochmeister of the Teutonic Order and the Velikiy Knyaz of Kiev have signed a pact of non-aggression until turn 30.

[Makrell]

im with auran

[Gaius Octavius Caesar]

1 fort per region is sufficient limit. Think about the bigger regions in the east.

[sonnet]

@Vipman : from what Jiub wrote the bug should work like this (I tried in my campaign):


Basically it seems that with SS6.4 there's a bug (I saw this bug in Westeros HS too) that let you build a fort in the ZoC of an enemy army.
If you do that then the loss of mov.points due to coming in contact with the enemy's army gets reset (or better the loss gets reverted).
So my understanding is that thanks to this Spanish army was able to bypass the French army ZoC you see in this ss (this is a ss from Auran) ,without the need of defeating it

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[Vipman]

Aah that's what I was thinking too but I knew the game doesn't allow you to build a fort if there is any agent/general nearby, at least from a different faction, I'm not sure now if from your faction also. So I thought it must be something else. In this case then it should not be allowed.

BTW I can't view that video.

[sonnet]

Aah that's what I was thinking too but I knew the game doesn't allow you to build a fort if there is any agent/general nearby, at least from a different faction, I'm not sure now if from your faction also. So I thought it must be something else. In this case then it should not be allowed.

BTW I can't view that video.

@Vipman
Sorry I'm not really familiar with youtube (I can see the embedded video so I have no idea what I did wrong).
Try this link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABPlEUf-sv8

In SS6.4 I found the bug that sometimes you can't build a fort if some other army/agents of yours is nearby.
So I guess somehow the game-engine revert/confuse armies that are not yours for armies that are yours (and that must be why you can build a fort in a ZoC of someone else army ) and vice versa (and that's why sometime you can't build a fort if another army of yours is next to it).

[Gaius Octavius Caesar]

@sonnet This video is private. Sorry.

[sonnet]

@sonnet This video is private. Sorry.

It should work now..can anyone confirm? (I pressed on publish)

[Dr Mac]

Probably a bit late, but I'm against it. 4 per fort rule is for Westeros only where there are no spies or catapults :)

[Lord Luka]

The video works now. I am also against the rule for minimum units per fort.

[Emproment]

Pics later.

France @Jiub.

[Lord Luka]

This was a busy turn.

Hungary and it's new neighbour Norway have come to an agreement that an alliance between our 2 great nations will be beneficial to both of us.

TO up!

[Vipman]

Venice http://www.mediafire.com/download/xd..._Venice_11.rar

[Core-i7-inside]

Yet another peaceful year in Ancona the new Venice.

Save sent via pm.

[Gaius Octavius Caesar]

The calm before the storm.

Kiev next!
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwjO...IxNUEteXc/edit

[sonnet]

Turmoil in the far east

The recent defeats of the Kwarezm's armies in Baghdad which subsequently opened the path for the Turkish armies to the Persian lands,
jeopardized the position of the Shah @Dr Mac. While the Shah was running for his life trying to escape the Turkish revenge and tried to find refuge
in Basra, in the capital the council of nobles lost any confidence in the Shah's leading skills and decided to depose the incompetent ruler and elected a new leader: Shah @yuonyuon!

Rumours say that the ex-Shah Dr Mac left in secret Basra on a small ship headed to the Yemenite's shores..
Will the new leader Yuonyuon be able to fulfill the ambitions of the nobles? Only time will tell...

[Lord Luka]

Wait what's with the change?Is Dr.Mac unable to play or something?
And how come Younyoun is back after that turmoil?

[sonnet]

Wait what's with the change?Is Dr.Mac unable to play or something?
And how come Younyoun is back after that turmoil?

Dr Mac has been asking admin, repeatedly in the 3 last turns to have Kwarezm faction turned to AI, as he felt defeated and unable to counter-act the Turkish armies (this might not be how things were -for instance there's always been a peace offer on the table for Kwarezm, which he kept refusing-, but in any case it's how Dr Mac felt).
Turning Kwarezm to AI is an option I'd like to avoid at any cost, because that would unfairly unbalance the game in favour of eastern factions (favouring Turks above everyone else, and possibly Egypt, Kiev and TO too).
So we quickly needed a player before Kwarezm's situation became too compromised (if Dr Mac left in the next turns we couldn't have been able to find a replacement), and Yuonyuon was happy to get back.

[Lord Luka]

Ok that makes sense.

[Gaius Octavius Caesar]

The Shah is dead, long live the Shah.
@Emproment can we see those pics, pls?

[Emproment]

Yes, I will upload the pictures soon.

EDIT: I don't think I know how to do this right.

http://www.filedropper.com/pics_5

[Gaius Octavius Caesar]

Kiev subbed
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwjO...RZQlB6bFU/edit

[Emproment]

Check if the link worked.

[Gaius Octavius Caesar]

Check if the link worked.

It worked.

[sonnet]

@ebs : I already asked yesterday Vipman to sub you, but you asked to wait as you promised to play the save yesterday evening. Next time I won't wait. I'm not angry, just understand why next time we won't wait for you.

Moors subbed as requested by EBS: Rome taken, 2 French forts taken and Jihad called on Paris.
SS in few minutes

Edit: Nightbringer just said that he can't reset the pswd until tomorrow night. Unfortunately I'm trying since 2 days to have Kwarezm pswd reset from Myth or Nightbringer. We'll have to wait 2 more days I'm afraid

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[Tonno]

Why Dr. Mac doesn't give him the pass?

[sonnet]

Why Dr. Mac doesn't give him the pass?

Because Dr Mac when joined refused to use the pswd we were already using for kwarezm, and went to the admin asking to have his pswd cleared.
And after that he kept refusing to share this new pswd saying that's the same pswd he uses for other HS.