Restless crowns: forging empires [Late era -Skip a few]

[sonnet]

Moors loose 4 stacks all in range of my cities with siege weapons . i didn t have no single unit in range so i considered that as a threat , also the offer was silly .

Just to say that there was clearly no threat.
If I wanted, I could have simply defeated one of the 2 armies guarding Toledo, take the fort and get Toledo (and you'd have lost Seville too..) next turn leaving you like that
or similarly
Like this:

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I didn't want to start a war because I thought it wouldn't be beneficial to any of you.
You instead, wanted take advantage of the fact that the player had a the pc broken and needed last minute subbing and that's fine.
But obviously if I wanted to make move to threat you I'd have moved that way, rather than putting armies on ships.

[yuonyuon]

Just to say that there was clearly no threat.
If I wanted, I could have simply defeated one of the 2 armies guarding Toledo, take the fort and get Toledo (and you'd have lost Seville too..) next turn leaving you like that
or similarly
Like this:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I didn't want to start a war because I thought it wouldn't be beneficial to any of you.
You instead, wanted take advantage of the fact that the player had a the pc broken and needed last minute subbing and that's fine.
But obviously if I wanted to make move to threat you I'd have moved that way, rather than putting armies on ships.

If you moved that way you still loose 4 stacks , i don t see no difference , my santiago units are west of Toledo and they can reach easily.also i have spies in range , that fort is nothing.
you know better that when there is a siege weapon in range that means war , i don t have to explain this , i think is clearly for everyone

i was forced to do so even i was concern more about portugal and aragon, you can see that there is no single units that can reach any of the moorish cities

As far as i know when i m subbing i always make a defensive turn and that is clearly not

anyway i m open to negotiation with moors ....

[sonnet]

If you moved that way you still loose 4 stacks , i don t see no difference , my santiago units are west of Toledo and they can reach easily.also i have spies in range , that fort is nothing.
you know better that when there is a siege weapon in range that means war , i don t have to explain this , i think is clearly for everyone

i was forced to do so even i was concern more about portugal and aragon, you can see that there is no single units that can reach any of the moorish cities

As far as i know when i m subbing i always make a defensive turn and that is clearly not

anyway i m open to negotiation with moors ....

No, you couldn't : you need spies with 60% of chances.
Having spies doesn't mean anything, since you started your campaign with no spies on turn 1. Even if you recruited 2 in Leon and Salamance, those would be untrained .

Show the ss of the spies..and then we can laugh together about what you just wrote.
Like I said, you wanted to take advantage of Ebs needs of subbing in a crucial turn is fine. But at least say the things as they are.

[yuonyuon]

My offer to Moors is : 5 turns NAP , he can take Palma .
condition : No siege weapons in range or in ships ,otherwise the war will start again.

due the situation seems fair , and if EBS accept then it is official.

[sonnet]

My offer to Moors is : 5 turns NAP , he can take Palma .
condition : No siege weapons in range or in ships ,otherwise the war will start again.

due the situation seems fair , and if EBS accept then it is official.

I see you're not showing ss of your amazing spies..

[yuonyuon]

I see you're not showing ss of your amazing spies..

just a sec actually one of them have 70%

just think a bout it need 4 eyes . i recruited 2 in Leon and Salamnce on turn 3 i have 3 in range 70% 60 % 40%

[sonnet]

just a sec actually one of them have 70%

just think a bout it need 4 eyes . i recruited 2 in Leon and Salamnce on turn 3 i have 3 in range 70% 60 % 40%

You're right about the 4 "eyes" but you don't have 2 with at least 4 eyes..

[yuonyuon]

I think that its enough , i don t want to sow too much of my territories .lol

[Tonno]

It is obvious that even God is on our side in this fight against corrupted Pope and his allies, primary Venice that decided to start open war on our rightful cleansing. Venice was hit with the worst plague that has not been seen in years, and with full garrisons in it, the losses of men will be substantial.

The counter attack has already started by our strong Prince Hartmut, we shall not give Venice pig dogs room to breath; in the central Italy Mertin von Lothringen proved him self in fight against Popes mercenary generals and he moved straight up into reach of Bologna, contrary to the directions give by the Prince. We will see what young general has in mind.
Venice is already sorunded by Deitrich Foltz, that has come from the regions of Slavic people where several hundred Slavs joind him in fight agaisnt this corrupted and bankrupt dodge, and Theodorich Zollner that protects army that is under the walls of Milan.
In Innsbruck, on call to war, 200 mounted soldiers answered in just a few days... we are keen to see the full on reaction from German people after they, again, proved to be strong and capable by switching from economy development into full war readiness.
It is expected that Zagreb and Milan will be liberated next seson, while Venice should fall before army from Bari decides to come back, unless they will be needed on some other frontier.
Rumors go that more and more of common people are expecting our banners on the horizon, to set them free of this mad dodge that did nothing for his nation but started war, emptied the kingdoms treasury, put young men into war duty and made the whole kingdoms sky look darkly.

The Emperor is still open to negotiation, the folish dodge will just weaken both of us and after my glorious nation puts him onto his knees he will put his hopes in the last stand making this whole war nothing more then expression of frustration of a kid.
Now sit for the negotiating table you and all of your silly nobles.

[sonnet]

It is obvious that even God is on our side in this fight against corrupted Pope and his allies, primary Venice that decided to start open war on our rightful cleansing. Venice was hit with the worst plague that has not been seen in years, and with full garrisons in it, the losses of men will be substantial.

@Tonno : you didn't spread the plague in Venice, right? I'm just asking because that would be against the rules.

[Tonno]

@Tonno : you didn't spread the plague in Venice, right? I'm just asking because that would be against the rules.

Nope, God did it.
Jokes asaid, the plague is there maybe even from turn one, I don't remember well.

[Core-i7-inside]

It is obvious that even God is on our side in this fight against corrupted Pope and his allies, primary Venice that decided to start open war on our rightful cleansing. Venice was hit with the worst plague that has not been seen in years, and with full garrisons in it, the losses of men will be substantial.

The counter attack has already started by our strong Prince Hartmut, we shall not give Venice pig dogs room to breath; in the central Italy Mertin von Lothringen proved him self in fight against Popes mercenary generals and he moved straight up into reach of Bologna, contrary to the directions give by the Prince. We will see what young general has in mind.
Venice is already sorunded by Deitrich Foltz, that has come from the regions of Slavic people where several hundred Slavs joind him in fight agaisnt this corrupted and bankrupt dodge, and Theodorich Zollner that protects army that is under the walls of Milan.
In Innsbruck, on call to war, 200 mounted soldiers answered in just a few days... we are keen to see the full on reaction from German people after they, again, proved to be strong and capable by switching from economy development into full war readiness.
It is expected that Zagreb and Milan will be liberated next seson, while Venice should fall before army from Bari decides to come back, unless they will be needed on some other frontier.
Rumors go that more and more of common people are expecting our banners on the horizon, to set them free of this mad dodge that did nothing for his nation but started war, emptied the kingdoms treasury, put young men into war duty and made the whole kingdoms sky look darkly.

The Emperor is still open to negotiation, the folish dodge will just weaken both of us and after my glorious nation puts him onto his knees he will put his hopes in the last stand making this whole war nothing more then expression of frustration of a kid.
Now sit for the negotiating table you and all of your silly nobles.

Well done fake Emperor, well done.
Your are not the real emperor. The real one is on the Byzantium throne. Your empire is fake too many levels. You attacked the pope, so you're fake holy. You are barbarian, so you're fake roman. How dare you call your faction a Holy Roman Empire?

[Myth]

I want to remind everyone that alliances with the Papal States are against the rules. I want anyone who is allied with them to load up their last turn and let me know how many turns it would take for their nearest diplomat (or recruitable diplomat) to reach them to break the alliance. It might be worth it for me to do it manually.

Also, I'm on vacation from tomorrow with no access to this PC until the 21st.

[Jiub]

Hungary up!

[Tonno]

Hungary up!

Really really cheap move.

[LooseCannon1]

Really really cheap move.

The English regent told him you'd be kickin' his arse. so I guess he decided to hit you first.

[Myth]

I want to remind everyone that alliances with the Papal States are against the rules. I want anyone who is allied with them to load up their last turn and let me know how many turns it would take for their nearest diplomat (or recruitable diplomat) to reach them to break the alliance. It might be worth it for me to do it manually.

Also, I'm on vacation from tomorrow with no access to this PC until the 21st.

I think this got lost in your discussion of your current war. Who is allied with the pope now? let me know.

[sonnet]

I think this got lost in your discussion of your current war. Who is allied with the pope now? let me know.

@Myth
Last turn France- @Jiub was the one allied with the Pope

[Jiub]

@Myth
Last turn France- @Jiub was the one allied with the Pope

I have a diplomat heading towards Italy. ;)

So France @Jiub , Hungary @Lord Luka and @Core-i7-inside are gonna attack us after they finish HRE & England?
Interesting & thanks for the info, you have no idea how useful you have been..

There is no such plan. But yes, I did lie to Tonno, I think it strange he would believe me to stand idle while he's a huge faction and is about to conquer Italy. It would put him in an awesome position, I would not let chivalry kill me.

It seems a huge plot was schemed on the back of the Kaiser..
Who would have thought that..

Not a plot per se. After England and HRE signed a pact quickly, and especially after HRE would obviously not renounce a settlement here and there to make friends, ppl were on their edge. We quickly made buddies and said that HRE would not be allowed to grow.

I am still chuckling when I think HRE thought he could get away with growing even bigger and stronger without his neighbors bothering about it. :))

[Tonno]

Well done fake Emperor, well done.
Your are not the real emperor. The real one is on the Byzantium throne. Your empire is fake too many levels. You attacked the pope, so you're fake holy. You are barbarian, so you're fake roman. How dare you call your faction a Holy Roman Empire?

The Byzantines are Greek, they speak Greek, their culture is Greek, they don't have Roman Crown but a Byzantium Crown that was given to them by patriarch of Constantinople, and they don't control Rome. They are not Romans, they are not successors of Roman Empire. So by your own words this makes them just an Empire, the one that will crumble soon.

Oh, unfounded accusations. To be a King you need to know your Crown, and what is heritage, but to be an Emperor you need to be Me.
It is not the holiness that comes from Pope, but the people that in agreement with God elect the Emperor, that is then Crowned by the representatives of the people, the Church.
We are "Roman" by the succession of Crown that was given to our forefather in Rheims a bit over 400 years ago. The city is important, cuz it stayed Roman even after the invasion of so called barbarians. Through succession that Crown reached me, and it will be passed on to my son, and so on.
So my dear brother, that is if your rule can still be called Christian rule then you are my brother. I am the Holy Roman Emperor that will sit on the throne of Rome as a proper ruler should.

[Lord Luka]

I just got home.A bit later than expected.Will play my turn ASAP.

[sonnet]

I just got home.A bit later than expected.Will play my turn ASAP.

Yeah but pls asap like 30 minutes and no more than that.
Your time is expired now, and from now on you're taking Vipman's time.

[Lord Luka]

TO!