Restless crowns: forging empires [Late era -Skip a few]

[yuonyuon]

If Tonno has not problem with you as subber, then i have no problem either.
But your eagerness of willing having the Egypt pswd so bad raise some concerns to me, considering that, you up to now used to load Egypt's save with no problem while you shouldn't have. So lets be clear since you seems a bit confused:
Egypt is not your faction, and you don't decide anything about it. You have your faction and that is Castille. And subbing is a favor you do only when requested.

no more fights in here, i already send some PM s to admin.

I M THE SUBBER OF EGYPT AND I M AVAILABLE ONLY ADMIN CAN CHANGE THAT , THIS IS OUT OF CHARACTER, my job is to subb egypt when the real player is missing , and tonno is already playing in this HS so he can t play both HRE and egypt.

And pls @yuonyuon pass Tonno Egypt's pswd

i can t do that since he already play with HRE and he know your password and if i give Egypt password , why do we need passwords after all . you going to know your enemy password .

I'll be subbing HRE until the end or a replacement is found (pls help me finding a replacement).

Don t tell me you going to take HRE to Like you said . because i have the equal right to take Egypt too.

lets just play fair . i m just very desapointed that i m the only one that i understand and post this.

[sonnet]

no more fights in here, i already send some PM s to admin.

I M THE SUBBER OF EGYPT AND I M AVAILABLE ONLY ADMIN CAN CHANGE THAT , THIS IS OUT OF CHARACTER, my job is to subb egypt when the real player is missing , and tonno is already playing in this HS so he can t play both HRE and egypt.

lets just play fair . i m just very desapointed that i m the only one that i understand and post this.

Tonno will switch faction. HRE has less chances of surviving while Fatimid has plenty of them.
Dur3x didn't show up, so there's no real player anymore. If Tono is willing to trust you, after you misused Egypt's password, then it's fine by me and he can name you his subber.
We did the same, with Stouff in BdT (in which he switched from Scotland to HRE and from HRE to Castille while HRE was still alive), in which you played it too (and you showed no concerns then).

And no, subbers and players is something I manage. If you bothered to read what I write for once, you would have known.

Don t tell me you going to take HRE to Like you said . because i have the equal right to take Egypt too.

And here you showed what you intend for subbing and why you want to do that. Subbing is not a right. Is a favor we make to each other.
The one disappointed is me, since you have misused Egypt password for your benefit and you think you have the right to manage Egypt for your gain. I'm not subbing HRE to get any gain.
Just to show the difference between you and me: Ebs asked me to be his official subber before the HS started (while I was already HRE subber)
And I refused, because I was already the subber of HRE and I have no pleasure in subbing others as neither hold someone's else pswd.

Egypt need a player to make decisions , and only the player can do that.

[dur3x]

I will continue. No one will change the password. My password, my faction, my precious !!!

[sonnet]

I will continue. No one will change the password. My password, my faction, my precious !!!

I don't see your apologies and they're better to be real.
No apologies no playing amigo

[dur3x]

I don't see your apologies and they're better to be real.
No apologies no playing amigo

To be honest, I apologize to everyone on this forum for my bad words, but with a little exception, sonnet. After all, I don't really care about this man. The best way is to ignore each other and stop this with apologize because you will never see them.

This is the second threat from you when you want to remove a player becauase is not serving your interests in this HS.

When you break your word, you really deserve to suffer the consequences.

[sonnet]

To be honest, I apologize to everyone on this forum for my bad words, but with a little exception, sonnet. After all, I don't really care about this man. The best way is to ignore each other and stop this with apologize because you will never see them.

This is the second threat from you when you want to remove a player that's not serving your interests in this HS.

When you break your word, you really deserve to suffer the consequences.

It seems you didn't repent for insulting. You're not in.
I could write more, but if you don't get why insulting is wrong there's not much to say, your post says enough. If you don't understand the difference between reality and game, you're not really fit to play ,at least not in my hs.

And I'd be glad if you had apologized and continued to play. That we'd have all players for all factions and solved all my problems.
I don't care about what you do in game. But insulting won't be condoned.
And it would be stupid to think I would spend my time in organize a HS for people who insult me and lack respect.

And one last thing: as people talk about being brave.. insulting people is lame.
Insulting people behind a screen is beyond lame.. and not brave at all

[Gaius Octavius Caesar]

So thats settles it. @Tonno will take egypt and @sonnet will sub HRE from now on.

[Jiub]

You should take care not to over exaggerate. You might be admin and what he did, insult and acting like a kid, cannot be condoned for sure, and it's no doubt that everyone here agrees with you, BUT you should still know that he's your enemy and this incessant bickering over the insult is not doing you any favors. You're quickly becoming too much.

No, I don't like what happened and how yuonyuon and Durex behaved. I even told Yuonyuon that if he doesn't change attitude it's best he quit the hs for both his sake and ours, but I did it in private conversation with him and did not make such a big fuss. Granted it was you who was insulted, so you did make a fuss, but now it's going overboard.

The forum has rules. Durex has already been warned once now, and next time we expect him to wave us goodbye for good if he can't keep civilized. I don't think that you should create more drama over that insult. Let's put it behind and decide clear minded over how reliable is Durex, because if he does this every time he's attacked/backstabbed then it's clearly an issue - not just for this hs but for all hs's he's in. Backstabbing has always been a part of the game.

Understand the shift in the debate ? Let your bruised ego go and let's debate his return in a different light: if he's changed and is reliable and polite from now on, if we trust that of him.
My response/vote on the matter: As far as I'm concerned, I don't have much faith in Durex from what i heard about how he acted upon hearing his betrayal. Now he's entitled to answer and try to change my mind, but you can't go not playing your turns and insulting ppl because you're mad. It's a game, and it's everyone's right to betray or play how they see fit.


And sonnet, if you're gonna give me a one page reply, I won't bother. This is becoming more complicated than it should be.
Sorry for my long post for that matter.

[Tonno]

no more fights in here, i already send some PM s to admin.

I M THE SUBBER OF EGYPT AND I M AVAILABLE ONLY ADMIN CAN CHANGE THAT , THIS IS OUT OF CHARACTER, my job is to subb egypt when the real player is missing , and tonno is already playing in this HS so he can t play both HRE and egypt.

i can t do that since he already play with HRE and he know your password and if i give Egypt password , why do we need passwords after all . you going to know your enemy password .

Don t tell me you going to take HRE to Like you said . because i have the equal right to take Egypt too.

lets just play fair . i m just very desapointed that i m the only one that i understand and post this.

No.
You are the subber of DUREX. If I took Egypt I can DEMAND to remove you as my subber. No. I would switch HRE for Egypt as requested by the maker of the HS, and asked that everyone state their minds on the matter.
No. You don't have RIGHTS on the matter of EGYPT.

I just don't understand you, you liked the post where Jiub talked about changeing passwords but now you talk about your "rights". It's like talking to gay "rights" movement, playing right dumb.

Had it enough with your nonsensical posts, you write just cuz you can, you don't read other ppl posts and I can be damned if you are thinking what you read in them.

So thats settles it. @Tonno will take egypt and @sonnet will sub HRE from now on.

I wouldn't say it's settled, we still got to see what will Castile say and what will durex post.

It's a game, and it's everyone's right to betray or play how they see fit.

[yuonyuon]

looks like i m caught in the corner , i don feel very welcomed here . every new post i see is condemn me and durex to leave .(ironically we 2 are also his enemies in the game), i already saw this story in other HS from TWC
i m still wait to see what the admin say . then i can goo .

"my game my rules " you say . but we suppose to have admins that decide not a player that can use power on its own interest . well nobody force me to join so you right about that 100%.

Also why Tonno wants to have Egypt so badly ??....good question

[yuonyuon]

Turks are late they should be skipped ! that s what Sonnet will said if it was my or durex turn,
so if Tonno takes Egypt i leave this forum . I MEAN IT . 100% I WILL LEAVE !!!

[Core-i7-inside]

Turks are late they should be skipped ! that s what Sonnet will said if it was my or durex turn,
so if Tonno takes Egypt i leave this forum . I MEAN IT . 100% I WILL LEAVE !!!

No, please don't leave. TBH, I like seeing dramas between you and invicta. I think it is better than having a peaceful and quiet hotseat. And I don't think Tonno will take Egypt since he is doing well taking my cities.

[Myth]

Tonno is taking over Egypt if:

1. The original player for Egypt doesn't want to play them any more and he states so here specifically.
2. The HRE is turned to AI. NO ONE GETS THE HRE ONCE IT HAS BEEN ABANDONED. I don't want to see people effectively owning two factions through subbing.
3. The HRE player admits defeat and that he basically is out of the game as the HRE and it is clear that he is taking over Egypt which was more or less an AI faction as It has been subbed more than played.

Also, Invicta, it's not your job to exact punishment over insults in the forum. You are not a moderator on the .org and I ask you to trust myself and @Nightbringer for such matters. Also, public requests of apologies and threats for kicking players off the game over them create more drama and I think I made it clear that I don't want drama on these forums. Talk it over via PM and PM the moderators.

If I see more 5 paragraph posts which basically only point fingers and bicker, I will delete them and start handing out infractions. Focus on the hotseat.

[Tonno]

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Pics comeing up, but nothing that wasn't obvius

PS
Took tortosa as well, but my fraps didn't took the pictures by the look of it.

All diplomacy deals should be re-done, or ask thorugh the PM here.