Hostile Takeover of Washington is brewing

**Seamus Fermanagh** · 06-23-2014, 00:30

Originally Posted by Greyblades

Also bobby jindal is an oblivious idiot even by Republican candidate standard.

I need to start voting Democrat. Obviously my GOP leanings have been sapping my mind. Nobody can look at a conservative agenda and believe in it unless they are a drooling idiot.

**ICantSpellDawg** · 06-23-2014, 00:38

The point that Jindal seemed to be trying to make - leaving aside any insinuations about civil strife, which would only be to the benefit of a warlord who loves bloodshed - is that people resent well-meaning central governance requiring people thousands of miles away to think and act in a certain way. Whether this is actualized by requiring that all laws be consistent, all curriculum consistent, etc; this is anathema to anyone outside of the immediate influence group of that central authority.

The problem with a centralized educational curriculum is that it demands that all lessons be identical, not that it requires a base standard of education. This is a problem with most progressive policies, it isnt that they want a base standard on which to build unique concepts, economies and legal systems; it is that they want to command it to the enth degree morning, noon and night.

I reject sameness and I reject the idea that we are a nation founded on revolting against a 10% tax rate enacted by a government thousands of miles away only to be under the boot of a government thousands of miles away with a tax rate of nearly 50% a few hundred years later. I want a Federal government that ensures a base standard, not the endpoint.

The warning is this; there are consequences to a take no prisoners approach to changes that are vehemently opposed by many. I'm sure that plenty of Northerners thought that those who opposed their domination were hillbillies with a smaller population, weaker economy, and dumber ideas. It didn't stop them from surging into the Pennsylvania after years of superior military action that was unexpected. Just be sure that playing with fire is something that you want to do over commanding the lives of others. It seems to be something that growing numbers of Americans incensed with D.C. are coming to terms with themselves. History isn't over, hopefully the past few years of watching Europe and the Middle-East degenerate are uncovering this fact.

You guys wouldn't put up with it in Europe, why should we?

**Greyblades** · 06-23-2014, 01:03

Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

I need to start voting Democrat. Obviously my GOP leanings have been sapping my mind. Nobody can look at a conservative agenda and believe in it unless they are a drooling idiot.

Is this sarcastic?

we are a nation founded on revolting against a 10% tax rate instated by a government thousands of miles away

Uh...you serious? I mean as much as my nationality makes me want to say "the americans were unjustified in thier revolution" we did a bit more than institute a 10% tax rate.

**ICantSpellDawg** · 06-23-2014, 01:06

Originally Posted by Greyblades

Is this sarcastic?

Uh...you serious? I mean as much as my nationality makes me want to say "the americans were unjustified in thier revolution" we did a bit more than institute a 10% tax rate.

Hmm, you mean like sending armed soldiers into the home of non-violent citizens ? (this). General warrants affecting the whole of the populace? Warrant-less searches & seizures? Limitless surveillance?
Imposition of massive tax rates from afar, hyper-violent enforcement of minor violations, excessive educational mandates; we are either at the place or approaching rapidly.

**Greyblades** · 06-23-2014, 01:22

Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg

Go on.

Dude, just look it up. http://americanhistory.about.com/od/...revolution.htm
It wasnt one 10% tax it was a culmination of many acts of parliament made in an attempt to regain all the money spent in the french indian war, when the americans protested with actions like the boston tea party more acts were given to punish the protestors which in turn inspired more and more serious protests. Both sides kept escalating the situation until it devolved into open rebellion.

Seriously until you get to the point where texans trying to buy granite or something end up getting a better price by importing from alaska than from a quarry 2 towns over because of taxes you really shouldnt be complaining.
Hell, the 3rd amendment was in response to british soldiers being forced upon american colonists.

**ICantSpellDawg** · 06-23-2014, 01:25

Originally Posted by Greyblades

Dude, just look it up. http://americanhistory.about.com/od/...revolution.htm
It wasnt one 10% tax it was a culmination of many acts of parliament made in an attempt to regain all the money spent in the french indian war, when the americans protested with actions like the boston tea party more acts were given to punish the protestors which in turn inspired more and more serious protests. Both sides kept escalating the situation until it devolved into revolt.

Yes, I am aware.

**Greyblades** · 06-23-2014, 01:31

...Then why did you tell me to go on?

**Ironside** · 06-23-2014, 09:29

Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

I need to start voting Democrat. Obviously my GOP leanings have been sapping my mind. Nobody can look at a conservative agenda and believe in it unless they are a drooling idiot.

The current problem is more that the Republicans got a influencial faction that treats realism and sanity as treason. They have to be appeased, or they vote in a real nutter.