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    Its not that hard a concept. By choosing to take a moral stand on vaccination, you actually endanger people. That's not in dispute, is it?
    No, there is risk. But it goes beyond that single risk.

    It is not vaccination or any other single issue.

    A right is something the government cannot take from you under any conditions what so ever.

    It is not subject to the will of the government or the wellbeing of others.

    Personal ownership is the foundation of all other rights. If you give up that right you have de facto given up all the others.

    You can’t simply have a right sometimes and sometimes not.


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    This may seem like a simple no brain issue of the wellbeing of others vs. the will of a few malcontents but it is the foundation of all rights and liberties.

    It is the ultimate in the battle of security vs. liberty.

    Understanding that is the most important part of deciding the issue. Vaccines reduce the risk of contracting an illness but do not always work. You gain some measure of security from them but you have given up your most basic and personal right to get that security.

    Is it truly worth it?


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    Don't we already violate that right with prohibition of any drug? The government literally tells us what we can and can't do with our body all the time, and I don't think anyone will lament the fact that the government controls us in that that we are not allowed to inject heroin into our bodies if we so choose.


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    Don't we already violate that right with prohibition of any drug? The government literally tells us what we can and can't do with our body all the time, and I don't think anyone will lament the fact that the government controls us in that that we are not allowed to inject heroin into our bodies if we so choose.
    Yep, same thing in a way. But the government controls the substance which is not the same. Now testing an individual for having used those drugs does infringe on that personal right. So it does have an impact.


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    Blinded by ideology.

    This is like the stand against those evil seatbelt laws.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Blinded by ideology.

    This is like the stand against those evil seatbelt laws.
    Either you believe people have right or that you just have the privileges government grants you.

    I know you are on the side of privilege. You are always ready to tell others what to think and how to act. You are authoritarian and don’t cover it much.

    This is just for people who think that others have rights or liberties and don’t think others have the right to tell them how to live.


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    Good god, at this point I wouldnt be surprised if it turns out fisherking is in reality sean hannity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    Good god, at this point I wouldnt be surprised if it turns out fisherking is in reality sean hannity.

    LOL

    Not a chance. This is just basic political philosophy.

    Should people have recognized rights the government can’t effect or should they just be managed for the wellbeing of the state.


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