Who won WWII?

[The Lurker Below]

The point is that the war had its turning points before the US joined. Again, I don't say the US had nothing to do with winning the war, I am saying they only sped up a process that was bound to happen regardless.

Compare these 2:

A) Soviet Union didn't join the war.
B) United States didn't join the war.

What do you think would have the most impact? Again, the allies could have done it without the US, without Soviet and Germany focusing 100% on Britain the war would have been lost no matter how many ship convoys the US sent.

That is an odd comparison to consider. Who joined vs. who was forced to participate? The Soviet Union had no choice but to win. For the U.S. armed action was still a tool of politics rather than necessary for survival. The comparison lacks validity because we don't need to debate such a topic 60 years later? Every source I've ever read has readily acknowledged Soviet victory in Europe.

Kadagar AV, is GC correct regarding why you post this? I rather believe that since you didn't list any other participants, GC is correct.

[Kadagar_AV]

Kadagar AV, is GC correct regarding why you post this? I rather believe that since you didn't list any other participants, GC is correct.

I enjoy talking about WWII...

Was interesting numbers in OP, so I thought I would share them.