Speaking of Israel...

**Pannonian** · 08-21-2014, 10:11

Originally Posted by Fragony

Worst is probably the schoolbus

But again 200 missiles fired yesterday

91 people were killed in the biggest terrorist attack in Israel/Palestine.

**Fragony** · 08-21-2014, 10:13

Originally Posted by Pannonian

91 people were killed in the biggest terrorist attack in Israel/Palestine.

Could be, but attacking a schoolbus is sooooo cynical

**Pannonian** · 08-21-2014, 13:58

Originally Posted by Fragony

Could be, but attacking a schoolbus is sooooo cynical

And there is that redefinition of boundaries to excuse one side and make one side look bad and the other good. BTW Frag, what do you think Israel will look like if all the leftists, ie. liberals and socialists, moved out of there?

**Fragony** · 08-21-2014, 14:05

Originally Posted by Pannonian

And there is that redefinition of boundaries to excuse one side and make one side look bad and the other good. BTW Frag, what do you think Israel will look like if all the leftists, ie. liberals and socialists, moved out of there?

That is a completily valid point of course, but also something that can easily waved for being an distraction of what is really going on. Hamas does not want peace, how many peace-have been broken by now? 10 or so.

**Pannonian** · 08-21-2014, 16:13

Originally Posted by Fragony

That is a completily valid point of course, but also something that can easily waved for being an distraction of what is really going on. Hamas does not want peace, how many peace-have been broken by now? 10 or so.

And where's the evidence that Israel wants peace? Neither side wants peace. Both sides are as bad as each other, and if I had my way, anyone who goes anywhere near that region gets disowned by their native country, whether they be Muslim, Jewish, or Martian. But you're the one who keeps excusing Israel.

**Fragony** · 08-21-2014, 16:46

Originally Posted by Pannonian

And where's the evidence that Israel wants peace?

At least 10 offered cease-fires being broken is kinda an indication on who does what

**Pannonian** · 08-21-2014, 17:31

Originally Posted by Fragony

At least 10 offered cease-fires being broken is kinda an indication on who does what

And the landgrab in the West Bank? AFAIK territorial disputes is the most common, and usually considered the most deserving, cause of war in history, with the people whose land is being taken considered to have an automatic right to expel the invader by whatever means possible. What is your opinion of the Israeli settlements in the West Bank? What are the rights of the West Bank Palestinian authorities wrt these settlements in your view?