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    What makes Nationalism acceptable?

    Racism is the feeling that you are superior to others because of their color or there looks.

    Nationalism is the belief that your nation, usually of birth, is better than any other. How is this different from racism?


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    Default Re: If Racism is Bad…

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
    What makes Nationalism acceptable?

    Racism is the feeling that you are superior to others because of their color or there looks.

    Nationalism is the belief that your nation, usually of birth, is better than any other. How is this different from racism?
    I don't find either bad.

    Racism is OK if studies show racial differences. Northmen are better at handling milk than asians, as an example. I also believe black men are better at running than white men.



    Nationalism is about loving and respecting your country, that does not have to include HATING the others. I feel more strongly about Sweden than I do Norway... I also care about Norway more than Nigeria as Norway is closer to Sweden, geographically as well as ethnically.

    I see it as just human common sense, you care more about the ones closer to you.

    I care more for my family than I do about other families.

    I care more about my dog than I do about you dog. Doesn't mean I hate your dog or wants anything bad to happen to it. Same with racism and nationalism imho.

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    Default Re: If Racism is Bad…

    If someone would accuse me of nationalism a d racism I wouldn't really be able to defend myself. Doesn't really mean that am either. Protectivism probably; if you call it sort of conservatism I wouldn't disagree. I can reverse this really easily, and call leftists coservatives.

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    Default Re: If Racism is Bad…

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
    What makes Nationalism acceptable?

    Racism is the feeling that you are superior to others because of their color or there looks.

    Nationalism is the belief that your nation, usually of birth, is better than any other. How is this different from racism?
    Racism is founded on demarcating differences. Nationalism is founded on finding common cause. I don't think British nationalism is better than any other nationalism. But I do think that believing in Britain as a nation, and working for it, will make the nation better for all. Other nations are free to do the same for theirs.

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    Here, nationalism is the feeling when you consider your nation above the rest, while patriotism is the "good" version, where you are just proud of your nationhood without simoultaneously underestimating the other nationalities.
    I am not sure, of course, if there is the same difference in the English language.

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    Default Re: If Racism is Bad…

    Quote Originally Posted by Crandar View Post
    Here, nationalism is the feeling when you consider your nation above the rest, while patriotism is the "good" version, where you are just proud of your nationhood without simoultaneously underestimating the other nationalities.
    I am not sure, of course, if there is the same difference in the English language.
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    Default Re: If Racism is Bad…

    In racism you look at real or imagined physical and cultural differences.

    In nationalism you look at cultural and political differences.

    Both can result in one nation hating another they know basically nothing about.

    Essentially I see no difference in the two.


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    You could make the case for any '-ism.
    Calvinism, Catholicism, Marxism, almost any economic theory...etc.
    A structure of beliefs, often deeply held, that are at root artificial intellectual constructs people hold with faith.
    Very few have not led to blood in the streets at some point.
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    Default Re: If Racism is Bad…

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
    What makes Nationalism acceptable?

    Racism is the feeling that you are superior to others because of their color or there looks.

    Nationalism is the belief that your nation, usually of birth, is better than any other. How is this different from racism?
    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
    In racism you look at real or imagined physical and cultural differences.

    In nationalism you look at cultural and political differences.

    Both can result in one nation hating another they know basically nothing about.

    Essentially I see no difference in the two.
    Essentially I see no worthwhile difference between your OP and your last post.

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    Default Re: If Racism is Bad…

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
    Essentially I see no difference in the two.
    They are both man-made social constructions.

    There is no intrinsic nationality, it is merely a organisation we were born into which is allocated a portion of land. As Massimo d'Azeglio put it, "We have made Italy. Now we must make Italians". Nationalism can be taken to the extremes which it has negative impacts upon people simply because they popped-out of a mother from another nation with no choice involved.

    'Race' is taking minor genetic differences and trying to blow them out of proportion, this gets even more disturbing when the vast majority of the labels are inaccurate and leads to very unpleasant discrimination on factors that are not valid or even genetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    Welcome to the backroom Crandar, I hope you enjoy your stay!!

    As to your points, they are blatantly stupid.

    Ok, really they are not. Just wanted to get you into the right atmosphere at once. Again, welcome
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