Interesting Head Gear

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Skald 03:39 07-30-2014

Hi guys. In some of the most recent pics from the sneak peaks thread I see some of the Germanic bodyguard unit wearing what appears to be a wooden helmet? Am I correct in this or is it in fact bronze or iron?. I read a post from another forum way back where they were talking about a find in Denmark of a helmet like this. Pretty cool idea to incorporate it into the mod if so. Either way it looks awesome.

Tux 08:03 07-30-2014

Yes, it is the wooden helmet found in a Denmark bog:

Here you can see it better:

Skald 20:55 07-30-2014

Simple but effective protection. Awesome.

Rex Somnorum 22:34 07-30-2014

Can we be sure that it was really effective? An axe blow should easily split it, since axes are designed primarily for woodcutting anyway. Maybe it was ceremonial?

Tux 22:41 07-30-2014

Originally Posted by Rex Somnorum:
Can we be sure that it was really effective? An axe blow should easily split it, since axes are designed primarily for woodcutting anyway. Maybe it was ceremonial?

Do you prefer to get an axe hit on your skull instead with this?

Skald 00:14 07-31-2014

While I agree with you that an axe could probably split the helm. Some protection is always better than no protection. In fact I believe this helm was found with a bone arrowhead embedded in it which would otherwise have been embedded in someones skull. If this is all that is readily available....ill take the helm over the arrow

Tux 01:08 07-31-2014

Originally Posted by Skald:
While I agree with you that an axe could probably split the helm. Some protection is always better than no protection. In fact I believe this helm was found with a bone arrowhead embedded in it which would otherwise have been embedded in someones skull. If this is all that is readily available....ill take the helm over the arrow

Indeed, iron was quite rare in the germanic lands so they had to improvise.

Most of the iron equipment(swords, mail, etc. ) could be afforded only by the wealthy and it was imported from the celts but this happened later.
That's why for the late version you'll see more celtic and roman influence in their equipment(Coolus helmet, celtic and roman mail and so on), but not for the early version even if it's an elite(bodyguard) unit.

Titus Marcellus Scato 06:49 07-31-2014

Originally Posted by Tux:
Do you prefer to get an axe hit on your skull instead with this?

A heavy blow from an axe would cut through a bronze or iron helmet anyway, and even if it didn't, the wearer would be concussed from the blow in any case. No protection is perfect. Helmets deflect glancing or light hits.

Ca Putt 09:43 07-31-2014

It would probably be quite effective at dealing with most blows, but be much less durable than it's metal equivalent. A bit like modern day Bicycle Helmet or the Mycenean Boar tusk Helmet. Sure It will break when you take a good swing at it but for all it's worth it distributed the force away from your head, at least mostly ;)

The Gypsy 13:51 07-31-2014

Originally Posted by :
Mycenean Boar tusk Helmet

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This sounds interesting, please elaborate.

Mithridates VI Eupator 14:58 07-31-2014

Originally Posted by The Gypsy:
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This sounds interesting, please elaborate.

He is refering to the Bronze age Mycenaean "Dendra Armour", and similar findings. Te Mycenaenas used helmets covered with peices of Boar tusks as protection. There have been multiple examples recovered, and they can also be seen on some art from the time:

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A quick google search for Dendra Armour will give you more than enough to read and look at!

Skald 15:05 07-31-2014

Now that really is interesting head gear. Thanks for the pics.

kdrakak 16:52 08-01-2014

now, there is someone who never read the Iliad...

Skald 00:47 08-02-2014

What is this reading you speak of?

Alcibiade 00:35 08-03-2014

I always considered this object, which is an Ikea best sellers could be an interesting head-gear. Ladies and gentlemen, I present the GEMAK, an interesting head-gear from the 21 th century :

http://www.ikea.com/de/de/catalog/products/20233541/

" May you live in interesting times"

kdrakak 18:11 08-03-2014

Originally Posted by Skald:
What is this reading you speak of?

Nothing too important... You can get it at any kiosk... right next to Cosmopolitan... :)

Seriously ppl... this is EB! Do your homework!! :)

kdrakak 18:11 08-03-2014

Originally Posted by Alcibiade:
I always considered this object, which is an Ikea best sellers could be an interesting head-gear. Ladies and gentlemen, I present the GEMAK, an interesting head-gear from the 21 th century :

http://www.ikea.com/de/de/catalog/products/20233541/

" May you live in interesting times"

Still laughing!!!

Skald 15:14 08-04-2014

Originally Posted by kdrakak:
Still laughing!!!

Yes its true the GEMAK could be an interesting head gear of our time, although with all the holes in it I think you would be hard pressed to eat your porridge from it after the battle

V.T. Marvin 19:20 08-04-2014

Actually headgear like can be a core piece of people's identity and even the government has to respect that. At least here in Czech Republic it does and issues official ID cards with it:

http://zpravy.idnes.cz/fotka-s-cedni...rno-zpravy_lva

Ibrahim 19:49 08-04-2014

Originally Posted by V.T. Marvin:
Actually headgear like can be a core piece of people's identity and even the government has to respect that. At least here in Czech Republic it does and issues official ID cards with it:

http://zpravy.idnes.cz/fotka-s-cedni...rno-zpravy_lva

is there something I'm missing regarding the whole "let's wear spaghetti strainers on our heads" motif? or is he seriously lacking in dignity? or is it, as part of me suspects, an FSM related act of trolling?

FSM=Flying Spaghetti Monster

Maeran 20:19 08-04-2014

It is pastafarian in nature, yes.

Alcibiade 21:44 08-04-2014

Is it what we call a bad id ?

I wonder if he ever tried to board a plane with it. At least he can safely walk his outrageous self everywhere inside the schengen area.

EDIT : I just had a look at my avatar and realised I shouldn't judge him so severely....

Ibrahim 02:25 08-05-2014

Originally Posted by Maeran:
It is pastafarian in nature, yes.

suddenly, it makes a whole lot of sense.

OK, so I can't read or understand Czech (and I'm leery of translators), but I think I can figure out what happened from here:

-dude walks into the DMV equivalent in the Czech republic to get an ID,of course wearing a strainer.
-those guys tell where where to go (not in a good way). Partly because of the stupid headdress, but just as likely as it hides his hair mostly (a hindrance to IDing people).
-he argues that as FSM is his religion and the strainer is a symbol of it, he should have the right to wear it as a Sikh does his turban or similar. This being to demonstrate the double standards regarding ID laws.
-eventually, he (at least partly) succeeds, creating the funny mug I see before me.

I've seen similar stories from the US, though nothing this brazen--in a good/comical way.

EDIT: @Alcibiade: you are wearing a practical war helmet, which could save your life. the guy is wearing a strainer. you may judge him as you please

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