Sea Trade, or lack thereof

[easytarget]

After doing a fresh install of MTW2 while running into problems installing EB2 I noticed something when I fired up a MTW2 vanilla new campaign as England, no sea trade.

What I appear to be seeing in vanilla MTW2 is a complete lack of sea trade, no sea lanes on campaign map, no miniature trade ships and from what I can tell after setting up trade with every nation practically in the game is effectively no income from sea trade (I'm making maybe 200 a year tops and it should be thousands at this point).

Could someone else who wanders along and reads this thread try a new campaign in MTW2 and see if you see the same problem?

[rickinator9]

I started one like 2 weeks ago(in preparation for EBII). Did you make sure you built the trade port building in your cities? The regular port won't cut it.

[easytarget]

Oh yeah, I've got ports. I've played pretty far into a couple of these, no sea trade ever takes place.

Even more interestingly, sea trade still works in all the Kingdoms mods (americas, teuetonic, etc) and it works in EB2 just fine, in fact in EB2 the map starts from 1st turn with you having a port and you can open up the trade screen of that settlement and see sea trade in the trade screen and of course see the trade lines on the ocean.

[easytarget]

Here are some links to pictures, first one shows the complete lack of sea lanes and trade ships, even though I have trade agreements with just about everyone.



This second one shows the trade window demonstrating there is no trade taking place wtih Nottingham other than w/ castles and cities on the island. I could post the same shot for any of my castles or cities with a port, same result.



To compare, here are screenshots from Teutonic 1st turn, one shows the sea lane working correctly and the 2nd shows the sea trade in the trade screen, this is how MTW2 vanilla is supposed to work, but isn't:





*****update: i continued with the campaign and finally established one sea based trade route from Bordeaux to Leon. I've still not sorted why there are no other sea trade routes anywhere in the entire world, so I'm going to press along in this campaign and see what develops

[easytarget]

can anyone who owns the non-steam version of MTW2 do me a favor and start up a new campaign and see if you show London and Caen connected with sea trade on the 1st turn of the campaign. That's what I show in SS6.4, but not what I show in vanilla. I was curious as to whether it did in fact exist prior to the last patch, one certain way to establish that is for someone who owns a non-steam version to fire it up and look.....

[easytarget]

Latest development on this:

Thx for the digging guys ... I have found a difference with the old Vanilla Med2 sea trade and the Kingdoms ruleset which will make sea trade a lot less likely to take place.
Currently waiting on CA on the decision, but my recommendation is to use the legacy decisions for vanilla Med2 as thats what everyone has been used to for the last 7 years.
I'll keep you posted