Quote Originally Posted by geala View Post
I got the ratio behind your changes and it's totally acceptable for dealing with the M2TW javelin problems. But you cannot compare the range of javelins from sports competitions to that on real battlefields. Soldiers were for the most not trained musclemen, sick, tired, hungry, exhausted, hemmed by the terrain and so on. Heavier javelins might have been effective at 20 to 30 metres. Lighter javelins with thongs perhaps up to 40 metres. I did never reach such distances in my throwings trials but our ancestors were surely more experienced and stronger on the average.
You don't need to be a "trained muscleman" to throw well, just have practised a good deal. Which skirmishers of the day would have done, especially if they used the javelin to hunt, and thus to supplement their diet. Having to do something well in order to eat tends to focus the mind. Soldiers were only potentially sick, tired, hungry and exhausted on campaign, and then only on extended campaign a long way from home. Even then, that's why training would ameliorate the loss of effectiveness compared to ideal conditions. In amongst a hundred-odd men in a unit, there'd be men who could throw really well and those who couldn't. So I don't think the effective range of 60m (because they lose 10m running up) is that far off.

Quote Originally Posted by geala View Post
Thanks for the tip with the browser, I should have a look at it.
It seems to be a common occurrence, I'll quote Ludens on the topic:

Quote Originally Posted by Ludens View Post
That's the webpage redirecting to the [file]. I am guessing you have some sort of script- or pop-up blocker installed that prevents the redirect. Could you try left clicking on the link (as opposed to right clicking and then selecting "save as")? If that doesn't work, try another browser. And if that doesn't work, see if you can discover what piece of software is blocking the redirect.