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    EBII Hod Carrier Member QuintusSertorius's Avatar
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    Default Re: Makedonia EBII impressions

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    3. Cavalry types are all present and accounted for, and work better in every way bar charging (which I understand is something to be fixed).
    In the meantime, cavalry have been tweaked in my unofficial hotfix. I'm assuming you haven't made much use of Akontistai/Euzonoi, or Hippakontistai, because they've all been fixed so that they actually work, too.
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    Thank you IrishHitman, for the comments. I'm glad its been enjoyable. I'm pretty pleased with most of how the phalanx works; some of our guys have done an incredible job, and are still working on it. As for the hetairoi, I get your position, but we had even considered making them exclusively a bodyguard unit. Making them recruitable at such a high level was basically a compromise solution. And it'll be more palatable when we get shielded cavalry added.
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    man come back to EB Online!

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius View Post
    In the meantime, cavalry have been tweaked in my unofficial hotfix. I'm assuming you haven't made much use of Akontistai/Euzonoi, or Hippakontistai, because they've all been fixed so that they actually work, too.
    I'll have to look at that, javelin troops seem very underpowered to boot.

    As for the hetairoi, I get your position, but we had even considered making them exclusively a bodyguard unit. Making them recruitable at such a high level was basically a compromise solution. And it'll be more palatable when we get shielded cavalry added.
    Hetairoi are my favourite unit is all, having them on the roster as an independent unit at all is good enough. Besides, it gives me a lot of motivation to claw my way up the government and building trees with haste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishHitman View Post
    I'll have to look at that, javelin troops seem very underpowered to boot.
    It's not so much underpowered as "won't throw their javelins". Have a look at how much ammunition Euzonoi, Akontistai and Hippakontistai have left at the end of a battle, compared to Thureophoroi or other precursor javelin-users.
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    Never really paid attention to if they were throwing their weapons or not, was too busy micromanaging phalanx movements and cav charges. It does go a long way to explaining why they weren't killing much though.
    Last edited by IrishHitman; 10-11-2014 at 22:54.
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    As for the hetairoi, I get your position, but we had even considered making them exclusively a bodyguard unit. Making them recruitable at such a high level was basically a compromise solution. And it'll be more palatable when we get shielded cavalry added.
    I'm glad to have recruitable hetairoi, so I can have an elite cav on each flank without putting 2 generals. Obviously, if a player puts 5 hetairoi by army it's too much easy, but having 1 unit is pretty reasonable.
    About others cavalry, are you talking about lonchophoroi ? Thessalikoi ? Prodromoi ? (In these, AFAIR, only lonchophori is shielded though)
    I can't wait !

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    The recruitment rate for hetairoi is so low that you're not going to be able to field 5 in one army unless you contrive to have none in other armies, unless we're talking family members.
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    It depend of the country and the time in the campaign. Seleukeia starts with 2 basilike patris fro example., and on latter stages it becomes easier to build them

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